Oklahoma and texas want in the SEC.

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One projection was 1:UGA,UF,SC,KY. 2:Bama,AU,Tenn,Vandy. 3:LSU,A&M, Miss St, Ole Miss. 4: OU,Texas,Mizzou,Arky
Each team would play vs their pod every season and 2 from the other pods each year on a rotating basis
That'd be dope. Hopefully for SECCG we'd see a four team play off running up to it. :D Top team from each pod. But that's probably adding too much to schedules. Or would it go from tiebreaks/h2h as currently does?
 
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The first two were carry-over before the collapse of the Bowden era. The third is now several years ago and even that regime was slipping when the coach escaped for Texas. Now they are flat on their backs, not even a factor in the ACC. They were situated in the middle of the SEC footprint and they would have brought a great team into the league. Also, they would have benefitted from the affiliation in their recruiting. They robbed their constituency of decades enjoying the best kind of college football. It was pigheaded, and now it has blown up.
I believe you give conference affiliation to much credit. What has it done for USC? In Florida State’s early ACC days, they had their choice of recruits. Florida, in the SEC, got the leftovers.
 

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I have a good source and this is 99% going to happen, chaos will ensue with the other conferences scrambling to make their "superconference" as strong as possible.
 
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I believe you give conference affiliation to much credit. What has it done for USC? In Florida State’s early ACC days, they had their choice of recruits. Florida, in the SEC, got the leftovers.
FSU entering the ACC had a much stronger program/reputation that USC did entering the SEC.
 
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Don't forget N.C. State. I still hate 'em. Four of the five schools I hate the worst are in the ACC. And they hated us right back. It wouldn't be hard to bring the hatred back. No one in the SEC cares about us one way or the other
Amen
I was at USC during the last ACC years and that conference can eat you know what and die as far as I’m concerned. I suspect most of those wanting a return to the ACC didn’t’ have to live with their bs. We were fighting against 4 or 5 equivalents of Texas in those days.
 

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I believe you give conference affiliation to much credit. What has it done for USC? In Florida State’s early ACC days, they had their choice of recruits. Florida, in the SEC, got the leftovers.
I believe I understate it. FSU under Bowden went through the roster they had under Bowden they got into the ACC. Once those people cycled out, the deterioration was obvious. As for us, we are just too inept to get anywhere in the SEC unless led by a hall-of-fame-level coach. The two we have had were at the end of their shelf-lives. We'll have to discover another one to break through. One like, say, Smart or Orgeron wouldn't cut it.
 
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I believe I understate it. FSU under Bowden went through the roster they had under Bowden they got into the ACC. Once those people cycled out, the deterioration was obvious. As for us, we are just too inept to get anywhere in the SEC unless led by a hall-of-fame-level coach. The two we have had were at the end of their shelf-lives. We'll have to discover another one to break through. One like, say, Smart or Orgeron wouldn't cut it.
I’m not sure that I follow. Bowden was with Fla St. for about 20 years in the ACC, and then Fisher finished every year top 25 including a NC, except for his last year. For the last decade Clemson took over and had their choice of players while also in the ACC. Meanwhile USC found a few years of success, and most would argue that was due to the coach, not the SEC. so I still say that other than $$ payout, conference affiliation is overrated. Using USC as an example, change my mind.
 

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I’m not sure that I follow. Bowden was with Fla St. for about 20 years in the ACC, and then Fisher finished every year top 25 including a NC, except for his last year. For the last decade Clemson took over and had their choice of players while also in the ACC. Meanwhile USC found a few years of success, and most would argue that was due to the coach, not the SEC. so I still say that other than $$ payout, conference affiliation is overrated. Using USC as an example, change my mind.
If we were in the ACC at the time we had that coach...we would have been winning the conference championships, going to the big bowls and, maybe.....be where Clemson is currently sitting.
 

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I’m not sure that I follow. Bowden was with Fla St. for about 20 years in the ACC, and then Fisher finished every year top 25 including a NC, except for his last year. For the last decade Clemson took over and had their choice of players while also in the ACC. Meanwhile USC found a few years of success, and most would argue that was due to the coach, not the SEC. so I still say that other than $$ payout, conference affiliation is overrated. Using USC as an example, change my mind.
Wouldn't bother. Your mind has synthesized a conclusion just like mine has. I'm watching golf right now.
 
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If we were in the ACC at the time we had that coach...we would have been winning the conference championships, going to the big bowls and, maybe.....be where Clemson is currently sitting.
If that were true, then you proved my point that being in the SEC alone isn’t enough to attract recruits. Your statement would infer that being in the SEC is detrimental.
 
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Just add another team to the conference to make it an 18 team conference. It could be Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and the fourth team could be Iowa State or Texas Tech or Houston.
Why take in Iowa state or a third in Texas when you could get Florida state or Clemson. (I don’t see how anyone can be ok with Texas coming in and not ok with Clemson. That’s a&m’s in state rival, it’s the same with clemson and why we don’t want them.). With that said I know I will get flamed for saying it but I did.
 

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Why take in Iowa state or a third in Texas when you could get Florida state or Clemson. (I don’t see how anyone can be ok with Texas coming in and not ok with Clemson. That’s a&m’s in state rival, it’s the same with clemson and why we don’t want them.). With that said I know I will get flamed for saying it but I did.
I would hate to see clemson join the SEC, but i would not like to see University of South Carolina react like how Texas A&M is right now. Jus accept it and move on. I know once over 50 years ago clemson had an chance to leave the conference, but got cold feet and decided to stay. About 30 years ago, Florida State turned down the SEC. I do not know how both of those universities would feel about moving to SEC, but I think the clemson coach would refuse to move to the SEC. While I will acknowledge that over the last 15 years or so clemson has reached out to play SEC teams (Auburn, Texas A&M Georgia), but that is different than having to play those teams on a weekly basis. clemson joining the SEC would decrease their chances of making the college football playoffs.