Tajh Boyd let Dabo get in his head and it most likely cost him millions of dollars.
IIRC, Dabo even tried talking Sammy into coming back.
IIRC, Dabo even tried talking Sammy into coming back.
Potential top 10 NFL Prospect Christian Wilkins turns down $$$ millions, decides to stay at Clemson
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if only the NCCA would read FGF, they would have enough evidence to close the program down.
Lattimore’s hiring was all over ESPN for a couple of days and he was also a guest on several National programs after the announcement. It’s probably not as big of a deal nationally as it is in the SEC.
The deal to get Jake? That’s BS... Bobby was a legendary SC high school coach and also worked on staff with Muschamp at Auburn. Bobby’s recruiting ties in the state will help sign many more players than just his son. Our co-offensive coordinator was promoted to FT coordinator so I wouldn’t say that Bobby got passed over for a promotion. Muschamp has also stated that the entire offensive staff will have much more input going forward so Bobby will be much more involved in the offense. How has Bobby on staff hurt us in recruiting? USC’s class will be ranked somewhere around the top 15 in the country, with a 4 star QB and 2 high 3 star RB’s.
If I recall correctly, the NCAA in it’s wisdom said that ML could not run his football camps ... AND ... be on the USC staff because that would provide USC with too great of a recruiting advantage. They now say that he can still have his camps, but he cannot be present for any part of them while in his USC position.
I don’t really understand this, but surely he can be present for Will Muschamp football camps or USC football camps while on staff at USC. What difference does the name of the camp make? Is it the fact that Marcus Lattimore receives the profits from his own football camps ... AND ... promotes USC?
He advised Hopkins to stay too, but Hopkins did not drink the Kool-Aid. Hopkins went on to be a first round draft pick. Had he opted to stay at Clemson, who knows what might have happened. His draft stock would not have been any better than it turned out in reality for him going ahead to the NFL.
That is not the general take on Bobby, but we'll see. QB recruiting has been a problem ever since the twofer Bentely thing happened. Without Bentley there was not another QB on the board, and hasn't been until Jake finished his sophomore year.
I am not saying it was a bad move. Where would SC be had Muschamp not offered Bobby the job? Sure, you do it. But if a Connor Shaw is already on campus, do you do it? I can't see it. It seems to be a situation Muschamp has to work through rather than capitalize on. Do it again? Yes. Want to get out from under it? Yes.
I am a tad antsy about Jake Venables at CU for the same reasons. There are enough LB spots that it likely won't be an issue in any event, but if Jake is good-not-great, and gets significant playing time early, I'm wondering what a 5 star HS LB is thinking. If Jake is a Boulware type player, or doesn't play at all, no issue. The opposite situation could influence a recruit, maybe.
If I were to be a millionaire, I’d leave every time. But that is me. The chances of injury or unknowns are too risky for me.
But I am not in that position.
But I am not in that position.
I tend to get called a tater troll so take it for what its worth, but Wilkins is a different type of dude.
A 2nd/3rd round grade was trumped by the relationships he has on the DL, love for college, and how upset he was after the sugar bowl. Not announcing saturday with Ferrell & Bryant at the banqet clearly showed he thought about this till the last possible minute.
As i've said before, I grew up in a gamecock family and went to clemson where I was in a position to know a lot of the players. Those of you suggesting wilkins got benefits in any way for coming back are the reason why I have a really hard time still pulling for carolina when they arent playing clemson.
A 2nd/3rd round grade was trumped by the relationships he has on the DL, love for college, and how upset he was after the sugar bowl. Not announcing saturday with Ferrell & Bryant at the banqet clearly showed he thought about this till the last possible minute.
As i've said before, I grew up in a gamecock family and went to clemson where I was in a position to know a lot of the players. Those of you suggesting wilkins got benefits in any way for coming back are the reason why I have a really hard time still pulling for carolina when they arent playing clemson.
2nd / 3rd round grade for Wilkins... what kind of BS is that
wilkins is a heck of an athlete but another year of putting up #'s and playing in a down ACC will go a long way. take a look a clemsons schedule... every team is on a down year and FSU is going to be going through growing pains with a new coach. Throw in the fact that there is depth at DL, they're going to put up absurd numbers.
What these players do not realize is that the disability policies that they get are not set up to payout easily. According to Marcus Lattimore, his policy only paid out about 30% of the benefit amount even with his catastrophic injury. Why? Because he rehabed and attempted to play football again, getting paid by the 49’s. We all know how that turned out. I surmize that the only way he would have collected the entire payout (whatever that sum) would have been if the doctors emphatically stated he could not ever play or attempt to play again. Even then it depends on what the financial loss is determined to be.
So, this notion that these players agree to come back for their 4th year in an attempt to improve their draft stock for a bigger pay day is silly unless they project in the mid to late rounds. Few are going to have the disastrous injury like Marcus. They’re going to have the torn ACL type injuries or broken bones which will kill their draft potential, but will not necessarily keep them from getting drafted or signing as a free agent. Once they rehab, and start attempting to play ball (getting paid), that’s likely the end of their insurance pot of gold. So they keep following their dream, only to find that it’s never gonna come true, because the injury they sustained has set them back too far, or they recover, but end up reinjuring themselves, and they missed their opportunity to get a big pay day by allowing themselves to get talked into playing another year for their beloved coach and school who told them they had an insurance policy to make them whole just in case.
So, this notion that these players agree to come back for their 4th year in an attempt to improve their draft stock for a bigger pay day is silly unless they project in the mid to late rounds. Few are going to have the disastrous injury like Marcus. They’re going to have the torn ACL type injuries or broken bones which will kill their draft potential, but will not necessarily keep them from getting drafted or signing as a free agent. Once they rehab, and start attempting to play ball (getting paid), that’s likely the end of their insurance pot of gold. So they keep following their dream, only to find that it’s never gonna come true, because the injury they sustained has set them back too far, or they recover, but end up reinjuring themselves, and they missed their opportunity to get a big pay day by allowing themselves to get talked into playing another year for their beloved coach and school who told them they had an insurance policy to make them whole just in case.
never in my days have i seen so many taters masquerading as Gamecocks fans
Tajh knew he was going to be no higher than a third round pick. He can't read defenses and didn't have the arm strength. He was told that by scouts. Coming back didn't cost him that much. He was no more a first round draft pick than PJ Dozier
People fail to realize your body only has a certain number of years to hold up while playing football. So if typically you're physically unable to play at say 30, why would you waste a year playing college when you could be earning big bucks in the NFL. I'd advise every kid who has the talent to make an NFL roster to leave after the 3 years required in college. Leaving college early also gets you to free agency (where the real money is made) a year sooner. Just ask Jadaveon if he is sorry he left after his junior year with the mega deal he just signed or Alshon would be another one to ask. Wilkins is either a fool or is getting paid lots of dollars to stay.
NFL people are beyond looking at numbers when making draft selections. Any reasonably intelligent person would be. No player is going to stay for an extra year, pad stats, and fool anyone. He may go higher based on getting bigger or stronger or showing scouts something they haven't seen before, but stats against teams that are down, as you say, won't do it.
Stay away from the buttholes, for one.
Not sure who started this thread, but I never heard anyone, much less anyone with any credibility, who had Wilkins as a top 10 pick. In fact over the last couple of weeks heard the analyst slot him as a possible top 32 pick. Just depending on whether teams had DL as their priority near bottom of first round.
I recently read there was concern over him being a tweener in the NFL, not quite the dominate force they need at DT but not going to be explosive enough to play DE.
I don't care how enjoyable school is. Making millions of dollars would be much more enjoyable.
Your 6th post and people "tend to call you a tater troll". That's unbelievable after the trouble you went to making that Marcus Lattimore avatar. I think everybody can agree though, Clemson fans, Gamecock fans, Ohio State running backs: Christian Wilkins is a "different type of dude".
Not sure where the confusion is. Already said I grew up a Carolina fan but went to Clemson in a training capacity so I got to know a lot of the players.
My 6th post because I created an account a week ago after reading through the garbage being posted and felt the need to contribute.
Have much better things to do with my time then post pro Clemson threads. I was just bothered by the fact that people are trying to take shots at Wilkin' s character because he simply decided to stay for his senior year.
Amazing how the house taters try to defend Dabo when they get their news from tiger net.
Snowflakes need to run back over to their koolaid media.
Btw. Here’s another famous Dabo move that cost one of his players millions. Convinced the kid he was an NFL QB. Lol. Silly taters believe everything the guy says.
CLEMSON -- Kyle Parker was throwing the ball so well during Wednesday's practice, Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney told the sophomore quarterback he looked like Minnesota Vikings great Fran Tarkenton.
Snowflakes need to run back over to their koolaid media.
Btw. Here’s another famous Dabo move that cost one of his players millions. Convinced the kid he was an NFL QB. Lol. Silly taters believe everything the guy says.
CLEMSON -- Kyle Parker was throwing the ball so well during Wednesday's practice, Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney told the sophomore quarterback he looked like Minnesota Vikings great Fran Tarkenton.
You made your choice. We all have good reason for thinking Clemson is up to no good. Use some of that orange education you paid for, and read the NCAA reports on Clemson. Oh and BTW ... Nobody here cares whether you pull for the Gamecocks or not.
Dabo pays them and for the membership to this site. This is the only media site in the state that Clemson gets negative facts covered in print with high viewership so the FAKE FANS flock here in droves with BS spin to counter truthful fact.
Dabo pushes that BS on them as soon as they step on campus. He's telling them how committed to the team everyone is and makes them feel like if they leave they are abandoning their team. There is a lot of pressure on guys to stick around up there. He's even said in interviews that kids should stay for their full 4 years of college. He feels like when a school offers them that scholarship they are owned by that school and him. He doesn't have the kids best interest at heart, only his success. He sells it well though.
That won't happen. Same scheme, same coaches, same beatdown against good teams.
Your best player in Sugar Bowl was Deon Cain. All other offensive players did not show up. Tee Higgens did not have a catch and was injured and on crutches on the sideline. Was the injury as serious as it looked?
zero Clemson players got 1st rd grades. Someone has been reading too much Kiper McShay garbage.
