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Right now the mortality rate of this is at 1.2% in the USA. If this keeps going down...

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Rush Limbaugh 2/23/20
“It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump,”

“Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus. ... I’m dead right on this. The coronavirus is the common cold, folks.”

Sean Hannity 3/9/20
"This scaring the living hell out of people -- I see it, again, as like, let's bludgeon Trump with this new hoax."

Of course both are now proclaiming we've always been at war with Eastasia...

The gaslighting is top down though gotta tip the hat to Liz Cheney (of all people) who has attempted to counter the anti-science sentiment which has overtaken the GOP.
There's your Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient.
 
Ps: we are now running a death rate of 2.80% whereas it was 1.12% about 10 days ago.
 
The worst hit places in Europe are also most likely the places in which the health care system has been overwhelmed. Could that be a factor?
I have zero expertise here though that's what I gathered as well. Additionally with the system being overwhelmed this has lead to deaths which under normal circumstances can be prevented (heart attacks, strokes, etc)
 
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  • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...record-1-497-virus-dead-one-day-half-NYC.html



  • US infections reached almost three times that of the next hardest-hit countries Spain and Italy
  • 788 New Yorkers died from the virus in 24 hours as the city's fatalities make up a quarter of the US death toll
  • New York City prepares to wake up to 'D-Day' Sunday, when the Big Apple will find out if its medical supplies are going to hold up as the outbreak reaches its peak
  • Shocking images show body bags containing the latest victims of the killer virus spilling out into the corridors of the city's hospitals
  • The NYPD is on its knees with 18,000 members testing positive and 10 dead
  • NY Gov Cuomo said the pandemic was like a 'fire spreading' as more states emerge as new epicenters
  • Louisiana has become a key concern with New Orleans patients dying at twice the rate per capita as in New York
  • Michigan now has more cases that California with 12,744
  • President Trump told Americans to prepare for the 'toughest week' next week
 
The USA makes up 4.29% of the world population. Currently, the USA makes up 7.14% of the world deaths due to coronavirus. Sadly, I think this virus is just getting started in the USA. .

What you are saying cannot be proved, nor disproved. We have absolutely no idea at all how many people died from COVID-19, or any other disease or illness in China.

China has 1.4 billion people, and we have 340 million people. Of course China has had more COVID-19 deaths than US. But again, no one can prove it. China is not at all trustworthy.
 
Source? More of your simple math? Then may I ask your credentials?
I haven't seen 2.8% reported anywhere, not even CNN.
Just simple math Tom. So for you and a so clock here is the simple math. Right this minute CNN reports 9132 deaths over 321,762 confirmed cases. So 9132 / 321,762 = 2.838123%
So yes, it is VERY SIMPLE math without a link provided. Granted if the media are LYING about the numbers then my numbers are wrong.
 
Just simple math Tom. So for you and a so clock here is the simple math. Right this minute CNN reports 9132 deaths over 321,762 confirmed cases. So 9132 / 321,762 = 2.838123%
So yes, it is VERY SIMPLE math without a link provided. Granted if the media are LYING about the numbers then my numbers are wrong.

You missed my point. If there is no way of knowing the number of people who actually have the virus then how can the death rate be determined? Also, how many have died due to coronavirus vs with coronavirus? There are way too many variables to just plug numbers in a calculator and spot out a death rate.
 
You missed my point. If there is no way of knowing the number of people who actually have the virus then how can the death rate be determined? Also, how many have died due to coronavirus vs with coronavirus? There are way too many variables to just plug numbers in a calculator and spot out a death rate.
Tom, you win. It is my simple assumption and my simple math that the CDC is reporting deaths from Covid-19 infected people. Maybe some died from car accidents on way home after finding out they had the virus from a reputable test received.
 
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Tom, you win. It is my simple assumption and my simple math that the CDC is reporting deaths from Covid-19 infected people. Maybe some died from car accidents on way home after finding out they had the virus from a reputable test received.

My post was referencing an article posted here a few days ago which stated that patients who died after testing positive for covid19 were listed as covid19 deaths, whether that is what ultimately caused their death or not. I hope we all agree that there have already been too many deaths and the death rate is too high, no matter where the actual number lands.
 
My post was referencing an article posted here a few days ago which stated that patients who died after testing positive for covid19 were listed as covid19 deaths, whether that is what ultimately caused their death or not. I hope we all agree that there have already been too many deaths and the death rate is too high, no matter where the actual number lands.
Absolutely agree.
 
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My post was referencing an article posted here a few days ago which stated that patients who died after testing positive for covid19 were listed as covid19 deaths, whether that is what ultimately caused their death or not. I hope we all agree that there have already been too many deaths and the death rate is too high, no matter where the actual number lands.

The same type of thing has been done to calculate gun violence and deaths where they include suicides and justified police action/deaths in the statistics.
 
Limberdick is no more than a common doper and hannity is “the fantasy man”. How any sane person can believe a word these two mouth breathers spit out is a person without their very own brain.
You may not agree with Limbaugh but he's a recovering addict. Your no more than a common doper comment is ridiculous. What does his struggle with addiction have to do with his opinions on politics. Got news for you, tons of successful people are struggling with addiction.just saying
 
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I have zero expertise here though that's what I gathered as well. Additionally with the system being overwhelmed this has lead to deaths which under normal circumstances can be prevented heart attacks, strokes, etc)

I'm rather sure that officially they don't count, but i do believe that any death cause by illness, accident, or injury which could have been treated successfully, but because of the lack of equipment, medicine or medical personnel caused by the the pandemic, should be counted as deaths caused by the pandemic, even though they were not caused by the virus itself...
 
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You may not agree with Limbaugh but he's a recovering addict. Your no more than a common doper comment is ridiculous. What does his struggle with addiction have to do with his opinions on politics. Got news for you, tons of successful people are struggling with addiction.just saying
I thought we give people a break with stage 4 cancer unless they are conservative.
 
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You may not agree with Limbaugh but he's a recovering addict. Your no more than a common doper comment is ridiculous. What does his struggle with addiction have to do with his opinions on politics. Got news for you, tons of successful people are struggling with addiction.just saying


It’s worth nothing that for years Limbaugh took a hard line against drugs and drug abusers while all the time knowing that he himself was an addict.

all the while he was doctor shopping and being deceitful by using prescriptions made out to other people. His (an unmarried man at the time) extensive use of viagra was especially interesting given his bold promotion of “family values” and the fact he’s essentially an idol in the conservative Christian world.

after all, these were his words “if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.”


“When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he’s being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks.”

“…too many whites are getting away with drug use… The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we’re not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.”

In real life, Rush’s high priced attorneys convinced authorities not to arrest the multi millionaire radio host because he really planned to kick the habit–this time around even though he had failed previous detox and rehab programs.
 
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You have a pathetic following.


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Uh. Posting fake Foxworthy quotes is not necessary.

but

If a Democrat is opposed to abortion, she doesn’t have one.
If a Republican is opposed to abortion, he tries to ban them for everyone except his mistress.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ant...hy-asked-mistress-terminate/story?id=50274843

If a Democrat is homosexual, he supports equality for other homosexuals.
If a Republican is homosexual, he leads a gay life in secret while hypocritically condemning that lifestyle in public.
https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...-schock-says-hes-gay-regrets-anti-gay-stances


If a Democrat is religious, he quietly prays in private, as Jesus said one should.
If a Republican is religious, he demands that everyone be forced to pray along with him.

If a Democrat needs health care, he seeks to ensure that health care is accessible to all.
A Republican buys stock in an HMO and then campaigns against affordable health care.
 
You have a pathetic following.


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To the second point, that's not true at all. For decades we've had conservative nut jobs (politicians and pearl-clutching idiots) trying to get Howard Stern off the air, and also trying to get the FCC to fine every show out of existence when "bad" language was used. Or when Ellen came out on her show. Even this year, over 15 years after the Nipplegate Super Bowl performance (one of the best episodes of morons getting offended), these snowflakes were trying to get the FCC to go to work on this year's Super Bowl performance.

That said, Jeff Foxworthy can be funny at times.
 
It’s worth nothing that for years Limbaugh took a hard line against drugs and drug abusers while all the time knowing that he himself was an addict.

all the while he was doctor shopping and being deceitful by using prescriptions made out to other people. His (an unmarried man at the time) extensive use of viagra was especially interesting given his bold promotion of “family values” and the fact he’s essentially an idol in the conservative Christian world.

after all, these were his words “if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.”


“When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he’s being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks.”

“…too many whites are getting away with drug use… The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we’re not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too.”

In real life, Rush’s high priced attorneys convinced authorities not to arrest the multi millionaire radio host because he really planned to kick the habit–this time around even though he had failed previous detox and rehab programs.
I take it you are a perfect human specimen. The only one left on the planet. Don't walk over other people's graves man.
 
Uh. Posting fake Foxworthy quotes is not necessary.

but

If a Democrat is opposed to abortion, she doesn’t have one.
If a Republican is opposed to abortion, he tries to ban them for everyone except his mistress.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ant...hy-asked-mistress-terminate/story?id=50274843

If a Democrat is homosexual, he supports equality for other homosexuals.
If a Republican is homosexual, he leads a gay life in secret while hypocritically condemning that lifestyle in public.
https://www.latimes.com/world-natio...-schock-says-hes-gay-regrets-anti-gay-stances


If a Democrat is religious, he quietly prays in private, as Jesus said one should.
If a Republican is religious, he demands that everyone be forced to pray along with him.

If a Democrat needs health care, he seeks to ensure that health care is accessible to all.
A Republican buys stock in an HMO and then campaigns against affordable health care.
Jesus didn't say you should pray in private.. He doesn't want people praying out loud just so people can here you praying. He hears all prayers that are sincere no matter where you are.
 
To the second point, that's not true at all. For decades we've had conservative nut jobs (politicians and pearl-clutching idiots) trying to get Howard Stern off the air, and also trying to get the FCC to fine every show out of existence when "bad" language was used. Or when Ellen came out on her show. Even this year, over 15 years after the Nipplegate Super Bowl performance (one of the best episodes of morons getting offended), these snowflakes were trying to get the FCC to go to work on this year's Super Bowl performance.

That said, Jeff Foxworthy can be funny at times.
Link? There were also Democrat nut jobs and Hebrew nut jobs trying to get Howard Stern off the Air back then.
 
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