So sports isn’t a business that needs HR standards and practices?
Find me a business where a woman would show up dressed like a fancy cowgirl for a setting in a barn and we can talk.
So sports isn’t a business that needs HR standards and practices?
Actually they are. Especially coming from a woman who worked many years around athletes and in the Athletic Department.
Harvey Weinstein says I think I can answer that question.Find me a business where a woman would show up dressed like a fancy cowgirl for a setting in a barn and we can talk.
Business retreats to ranches. Been there, done that.Find me a business where a woman would show up dressed like a fancy cowgirl for a setting in a barn and we can talk.
Business retreats to ranches. Been there, done that.
On the other hand a women that is judged the ugliest woman on earth can have a job in the board room if she is a whiz with accounting numbers, but the ugliest woman on earth isn't getting a job as sideline reporter even with an encyclopedic knowledge of sports. Looks are a part of sideline reporting, they aren't a part of analyzing liquidity issues, so comments about looks may be relevant in one place that they are not in another.Women sportscasters are in a tough spot...They gotta know their stuff and they have to be pretty. Focusing on their looks minimizes their talent.
You would NEVER say in a board room. Wow, I like those boots and blouse, good look. Oh and by the way nice report on our 3rd quarter liquidity problem and our hopes for expansion
Nope. I welcome compliments on my appearance. And honestly, most women do. Yes, we get up and do all the makeup/hair/outfit for ourselves mostly, but we also like to receive compliments.Then let's talk!
In that setting would you be flabbergasted if a male coworker said "hey, looking good in those boots!"?
So...any of you men actually care how an actual woman in the work world feels about being complimented on her appearance while doing her job? Or do y'all just want to continue your back and forth without some insight?
Thank you!There is nothing wrong with what he said. In this context or in any work setting. I get complimented quite a bit on my appearance, while at the same time being complimented on my job. Both when I worked in Athletics and now that I'm in law.
The thing no one wants to admit is that women who work in the sports world DO have to accept the fact that they will hear and see things that yes would not be appropriate in other jobs. But that's one of those things that comes with the job. Kinda like when you allow women reporters into locker rooms. Don't want to see an athlete walking around in nothing but his jock, and sometimes nothing at all, don't go into the locker room for your interview. Don't want to hear locker room talk, don't go into the locker room.
As others have said, if Erin had no problem with it, nor should anyone else. It's not anyone's job to tell me when I should/should not be offended by something said to me.
How many announcers (announcers, not colour commentators, and not sideline reports), regardless of sex, have played the game?It’s a topic that can’t be mentioned, having women reporters (started with side line reporters) who have never played the game. They were there to have more women viewers and a little eye candy. Some are knowledgeable about the game but shouldn’t that be an exception and not the norm for every game?
Is this “actual woman” (seems a tad demeaning to Mrs. Andrews, lol) wearing a de facto costume for effect?
I work for a Fortune 150, multinational corporation.
I interact with professional, intelligent and accomplished women at all levels, on the daily.
Spare me your “insight”.
Eventually, we will not be able to look at or talk to each other.Women sportscasters are in a tough spot...They gotta know their stuff and they have to be pretty. Focusing on their looks minimizes their talent.
You would NEVER say8 in a board room. Wow, I like those boots and blouse, good look. Oh and by the way nice report on our 3rd quarter liquidity problem and our hopes for expansion
Twenty years in Broadcasting and 25 in HR here. You're wasting your time on this "massive" controverseySo sports isn’t a business that needs HR standards and practices? Dan Snyder would love to talk to you
Bless your heart.Is this “actual woman” (seems a tad demeaning to Mrs. Andrews, lol) wearing a de facto costume for effect?
I work for a Fortune 150, multinational corporation.
I interact with professional, intelligent and accomplished women at all levels, on the daily.
Spare me your “insight”.
Her comments were pretty insightful.
women: "i want to intentionally dress so people think i look nice but do NOT want anyone to tell me i look nice."
Makes sense.
Bless your heart.
For the record - the "actual woman" comment was to all the males in this thread speaking on behalf of women. It had nothing to do with Erin.
Couldn't care less what type company you work for. Doesn't make you a better judge of women in the work world, or how they like to be treated, or what is going through their minds. You can still be the biggest misogynist on the face of the Earth, while the trash man can be the best man you'll ever meet in your life.
Another reason to despise what America has become. You can't say anything to anyone lest they be offended. And now you can't even compliment a pretty woman without someone totally unconnected to her being offended. I guess we're supposed to pretend that everyone is all the same. No one's pretty, ugly, fat, skinny, bald, wearing glasses, smart, dumb, tall, short or anything else that could be identified as different than the norm. It's disgusting to me what America has become. A bunch of whining crybaby sissies. Gee, I hope I didn't offend anyone with this post. Naw, actually I don't give a schitt.
Is this “actual woman” (seems a tad demeaning to Mrs. Andrews, lol) wearing a de facto costume for effect?
I work for a Fortune 150, multinational corporation.
I interact with professional, intelligent and accomplished women at all levels, on the daily.
Spare me your “insight”.
You obviously need some insight if you took her comment as he demeaning to Mrs. Andrews. lol
And I'm married to an executive level female, and she gets to decide what is offensive to her and what makes her uncomfortable. Not me. Not you. Not social media dip shits.
Demeaning??
What are you bleating about now??
Good lawd you’re dense.
You’re married to a female. Congratulations. I guess…
Bleat on.
Has Andrews come out and try to calm down the Non- issue
This is SO very true these days.In fact, if she did, the same people would probably start attacking her not joining into their outrage that didn't have anything to do with them to begin with.
Nice that you’re telling women how and when they should be offended. Your sterile life doesn’t sound like too much fun.Is this “actual woman” (seems a tad demeaning to Mrs. Andrews, lol) wearing a de facto costume for effect?
I work for a Fortune 150, multinational corporation.
I interact with professional, intelligent and accomplished women at all levels, on the daily.
Spare me your “insight”.
Sorry...responded before I read your other comments. Thanks!So...any of you men actually care how an actual woman in the work world feels about being complimented on her appearance while doing her job? Or do y'all just want to continue your back and forth without some insight?
In just about every aspect of TV based media. Look at the women and men doing local TV.Looks are a part of sideline reporting...
No worries. I would have welcomed your comments on men being complimented on their suit choices. I will tell a man if he looks nice. A man who can wear well a nicely tailored suit is nice sight to see. Not gonna lie.Sorry...responded before I read your other comments. Thanks!
Is this “actual woman” (seems a tad demeaning to Mrs. Andrews, lol) wearing a de facto costume for effect?
I work for a Fortune 150, multinational corporation.
I interact with professional, intelligent and accomplished women at all levels, on the daily.
Spare me your “insight”.
I like my insults to be a little more insulting than that.Maybe I'm old fashioned(only 36) but don't see where Bradshaw telling her she's looking good(maybe just left it at you look nice, but that's nitpicking) and did a good interview is a big deal.
Fortune 150 AND Multinational?
I know some people that work at McDonalds too.