Trump was building the wall and Biden tore it down. Biden is intentionally doing this. There's nothing in history that compares.
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The only way any American would vote for Joe Biden again is:
a) If there are financially benefitting from his corrupt policies.
b) They don't understand anything about actual policy.
c) Their estrogen levels and emotion cloud their judgement.
Otherwise, there's no argument to be made for re-instating the worst President in history.
a) If there are financially benefitting from his corrupt policies.
b) They don't understand anything about actual policy.
c) Their estrogen levels and emotion cloud their judgement.
Otherwise, there's no argument to be made for re-instating the worst President in history.
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Or they a
Or they are 100% on the WOKE, transgender bandwagon!!
It is not the same at all. There will not be a ban. It will force the sale of TikTok. Seizing companies that our enemies are using is hardly new. We have been doing that since the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917.
I really don't depend on politicians to make my life good or bad.
I am not looking- and do not look to politicians and the government to save me, rescue me, or prop me up.
I've done increasingly better (income wise and other factors) every year since I got out of college. No President, no political party has interrupted that line. I attribute that to the hard work of my family, myself, and focus on improvement.
I would support Wile E Coyote or the Banana Splits over the previous crooked administration or a fool who has whined worse than a 2nd grader for almost 4 years because he lost an election and had his snowflake feelings hurt so bad he wouldn't even attend the swearing in of the next President.
i have a family member that is transgendered that I love very much. So yes, I am firmly on their bandwagon. I'm always on the bandwagon for Americans to live their lives as free as possible from politicians or anyone else controlling their personal lives or how they see themselves or others.
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Is this supposed to be convincing?
Copying China is not convincing or something I'm interested in doing.
China bans a lot of things. They ban discussions like we are having right now that ridicule a government official or their family. I don't wan to copy them.
You want politicians and the government to ban a social media app that won't accomplish anything by banning Americans from using the app unless they fall in line and sell the company because the politicians forced them to do so. Falling for their performative gestures that don't really accomplish anything is not something I am interested in.
I want Congress to pass a good data privacy bill that applies to every social media company and prevents China from easily getting the data you don't want them to have. China doesn't need TikTok to do that. They don't need them at all.
There will be a ban if the company doesn't sell out to an American company.
If you don't sell, you can't do business and "free" Americans can't access your services. That is blackmail.
and as Rand Paul pointed out last week, he's still waiting for one Senator who wans to ban TikTok to produce one bit of evidence in a committee hearing that TikTok is selling or having their data stolen or taken by China's government or parties close to the Chinese government. It might be happening as Paul said, but no one has produced even one bit of evidence in their many hearings proving it.
Worse is people like you who are 100% for it, even though it won't do anything to stop what you are worried about. It's mind-numbingly stupid at this point.
it's as if you prefer the gesture over the actual fix.
It's like someone being satisified the HVAC guy stopped by his house to look at his problematic system, while knowing the guy never fixed anything.
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There's no bandwagon needed. It's the in-your-face propaganda from zealots which turn people off and do a disservice those who identify as such. Same thing with the race zealots. Live and let live -- privately and personally.
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Dave, I'm sure you've seen the 20-minute video compliations of Democrats protesting the election results over the years. Hillary even sprung for a fake document accusing her opponent of treason she was so bent.
All your side needs to do is agree to a Voter ID system so we can match a name to a vote on a public ledger. Yet, they won't agree to this as they enjoy ballot stuffing in addition to illegal immigration for votes. Who is the problem?
With regard to politicians not impacting our lives -- What in the world are you taking about? Inflation, Immigration, Spending, Crime, Mandates, Climate Activism, Censorship, School Policy etc.
Dave, I'm sure you've seen the 20-minute video compliations of Democrats protesting the election results over the years. Hillary even sprung for a fake document accusing her opponent of treason she was so bent.
All your side needs to do is agree to a Voter ID system so we can match a name to a vote on a public ledger. Yet, they won't agree to this as they enjoy ballot stuffing in addition to illegal immigration for votes. Who is the problem?
With regard to politicians not impacting our lives -- What in the world are you taking about? Inflation, Immigration, Spending, Crime, Mandates, Climate Activism, Censorship, School Policy etc.
Yes, increased interest rates necessitates more income.
Breaking news indeed.
Trump signs $2.3T relief, spending package
President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said, averting a government shutdown and delivering economic aid as the pandem…
thehill.com
Biden signs $1.9 trillion Covid relief bill, clearing way for stimulus checks, vaccine aid
The plan will send stimulus checks to most Americans, extend unemployment aid, expand the child tax credit and put money into Covid-19 vaccinations.
Good LAWD. The misinformation is strong today
"Although Biden has not added more miles of border barriers, his administration has provided funding to reinforce existing barriers and add specialized technology at the border.
Earlier in his administration, Biden signed a proclamation to pause barrier construction at the southwest border. But he has not ordered the dismantling of existing border barriers completed under Trump or any other administration."
The Department of Homeland Security said it would divert border wall funds appropriated by Congress in fiscal years 2018 and 2019 to repair and fix gaps in existing border barriers. These gaps have become crossing points for immigrants, The Washington Post reported. The administration also said it would use some of these funds to add cameras, lighting and other detection technology to secure the border."
"funding requests for Customs and Border Protection under the Biden and Trump administrations are comparable. Requests under Biden’s tenure don’t show that the administration is trying to tear down the agency.
Over the Trump administration’s four years, funding requests for Customs and Border Protection averaged $15.5 billion a year. So far under the Biden administration, funding requests for the agency averaged $15 billion a year. Ultimately, Congress determines how much money goes to executive agencies.
For fiscal year 2022, the last year of the Democratic-controlled Congress, appropriations were $16.5 billion for the agency, a higher budget than the four enacted under Trump."
"The number of Border Patrol agents peaked at more than 21,000 in 2011 under the Obama administration. Since then, staffing numbers have gone down, hovering around 19,000.
During the Trump administration, the number of Border Patrol agents fluctuated between 19,430 and 19,740. Biden’s administration has had between 19,338 and 19,536 agents.
CBP has long struggled with the hiring and retention of Border Patrol agents, partly because of low pay and the need for them to work in isolated, remote areas of the country."
Do you understand the difference between interest rates and inflation? Check the charts since Biden took office.Yes, increased interest rates necessitates more income.
Breaking news indeed.
Trump signs $2.3T relief, spending package
President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said, averting a government shutdown and delivering economic aid as the pandem…
Biden signs $1.9 trillion Covid relief bill, clearing way for stimulus checks, vaccine aid
The plan will send stimulus checks to most Americans, extend unemployment aid, expand the child tax credit and put money into Covid-19 vaccinations.www.cnbc.com
Based on his response to your post, the answer is clear. Many Americans struggle with the basics of Finance and this is why this administration is able to post outlandish stats about the economy. Their team and people like AOC lap it up with blind ignorance. Dave Ramsey needs to add an inflation tutorial to his basic finance repackaging kit.
Wanna see a really big pile of stupid? Ask him how a salary cap works. lol
Biden reduced border patrol agents to zero. They are now called border patrol greeters. lol
LOL
Quoting and following a snowflake nut job like Elon is perfect for you. Congratulations.
What does your Uncle Charlie think about it? Ask him at the next family reunion and let us know so we can enjoy his expertise.
By the way- Today
As I have correctly- and repeatedly said, the problem is Republicans. They don't have the votes.
" I have yet to see, any evidence that would warrant, the rise to impeachment." - Republican Mike Lawler
www.mediaite.com
As I have correctly- and repeatedly said, the problem is Republicans. They don't have the votes.
" I have yet to see, any evidence that would warrant, the rise to impeachment." - Republican Mike Lawler
GOP Lawmaker Who Backed Biden Probe Tells Morning Joe He Can’t Vote For Impeachment
Mike Lawler,who voted for the impeachment inquiry into Biden, told Morning Joe on Thursday that he would not support a House floor impeachment vote.
www.mediaite.com
Weak sauce. Sorry the Supreme Court didn't like what he was doing at the border either.
The proposal I am talking about is to seize the company, pay the shareholders a fair appraised value, then sell it at auction to qualified US bidders. They won't be allowed to not sell to an American buyer, that will be forced. There would be plenty of American enthusiasm to buy TikTok, it gets a lot of views and ad revenue. It would be a nice addition to the owners of YouTube, Facebook, and many others.
IMO, the proposed TIKTOK ban is nothing more than a trojan horse for a broader censorship push from our wonderful lawmakers in DC. `It's what they do and the proposed legislation reads as such. They are highly intelligent, virtuous, and know what's best for everyone involved.
Otherwise, why would it matter who owns what if the TIKTOK algo code is open sourced and available for viewing at any moment in time? If they alter it in any way, you pull the APP off the market for good.
Otherwise, why would it matter who owns what if the TIKTOK algo code is open sourced and available for viewing at any moment in time? If they alter it in any way, you pull the APP off the market for good.
The conspiracy theorists were right.....again.
Who are the misinformation specialists? The ones that censor and criminally withhold viable medication which is the believed to be the best and safest medication ever next to Penicillin. Instead, they pettle their experimental product with the unwavering assistance of the captured media and this administration.
Who are the misinformation specialists? The ones that censor and criminally withhold viable medication which is the believed to be the best and safest medication ever next to Penicillin. Instead, they pettle their experimental product with the unwavering assistance of the captured media and this administration.
You do realize that's not in effect yet, right? It was immediately paused again by the circuit court and the hearing yesterday in front of 3 judges didn't go well for Texas. I don't know why you mention the Supreme Court in this case.
and you also really don't want states making up their own immigration laws because that can work different ways - it can work very differently the next time a President wants to crack down and a state doesn't want to go along- you won't be very happy if the courts have ruled states can do their own thing.
I know what you are talking about. This isn't difficult.
You are for a law that bans TikTok if they don't sell the company to an American entity.
You are for that even though that won't solve any problem. It's a very odd position to support: 1) Congress forcing a company to sell out or it will ban Americans from using a social media app.
2) Supporting a law that numerous cyber security and online privacy experts say wouldn't stop China from accessing the data anyway and doesn't solve the problem at all.
But you do you. I suspect you are going to support it no matter how illogical it is at this point.
Nope. I am for outright seizing their business, their website, and paying a fair appraised value. Then auctioning it off with bidders restricted to US interests. Just like when they put a new road in. If you don't want to sell, they eminent domain you, take it and pay you a fair value. You are stating it as if they have an option not to sell. I would not give them that option. Done all over the world, it is nationalizing an entity.
You want the government to do that. I don't want the government nationalizing businesses. That's not the role I see for the government.
Because other countries do it- namely China- does not help the argument. We aren't China.
The next Congress or the one after that comes along and decides the want to nationalize some right wing political website that's popular, etc. That's the example Senator Rand Paul used. He was right in that case.
I also can see the proposal and understand the government says if they refuse to find a buyer, then the App becomes banned for Americans.
I do not want the government doing such a thing or to use their power to ban AMericans from accessing something they don't like.
Another big reason is it doesn't solve a damn thing - NOTHING. Not a thing.
Eminent domain is as popular as a kick in the nuts. It's strange how people suddenly like the idea if the target is something the don't like.
It would be like using eminent domain to take someone's home because you want to put the new road in while knowing the new road won't be going there anyway because it would be useless at that location.
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The US has nationalized industries since WWI when an enemy country is involved. Yes, I don't like it when Americans have something nationalized, and I cheer when we nationalize something of China's. I am baffled you can't see the difference.
Nothing to see here but an alleged father of a Noah's Ark family arguing for continuation of the criminal border policy which has allowed over more illegals that the entire population of South Carolina plus half of Georgia.
Although, he has also argued for endless wars, reckless spending/money printing/inflation, censorship, MSM, pharma, etc. so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised. As long as his team wins, policy and the implications of that policy be damned.
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you want the government forcing tem to sale or the App is banned because of China- when forcing ByteDance to sell it - or a ban- won't solve a problem. I am baffled you can't see that.
"America wins when it can show the world that it’s an open and democratic country. Not surprisingly, banning TikTok on the grounds that it’s a threat to our security won’t be seen by other nations as much different from the People’s Republic of China."
"If we had comprehensive laws that limit the collection and misuse (including the potential export to China) of Americans’ online personal data, then fears about the Chinese authorities using the app for surveillance and data collection would be greatly reduced." But we don't.
Glenn S. Gerstell: A TikTok ban won’t solve our problems
Glenn S. Gerstell writes that a TikTok ban won’t solve our problems
Banning TikTok Will Not Solve U.S. Online Disinformation Problems
TikTok is facing growing scrutiny in the United States, but a ban or divestment would not prevent foreign governments from taking advantage of the lack of broader U.S. regulations for data privacy, algorithmic fairness, and user content controls.
Congress Should Give Up on Unconstitutional TikTok Bans
Congress’ unfounded plan to ban TikTok under the guise of protecting our data is back, this time in the form of a new bill—the “Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act,” H.R. 7521 — which has gained a dangerous amount of momentum in Congress. This bipartisan...
A TikTok ban isn’t a data security solution. It will be difficult to enforce – and could end up hurting users
Montana has announced plans to ban the app from January 2024, making it a potential testing ground for a ‘TikTok-free’ America.
theconversation.com
Banning TikTok Won't Solve Our Privacy Problems
Preventing the use of an apps based solely on its country of origin (no matter how hostile) is merely a Band-Aid that won't fully address all privacy and security concerns.
You need your head examined for defending things such as this. It looks like we very well could be connected in what happened in Moscow yesterday. Do you approve of that too? These people have been up to no good for over 3 years now and you still haven't put it together.
I don't want to ban it, I want to seize it. Nothing about the seizure stops the US from making more comprehensive laws. I am for that too. I don't like China. I don't want them to own something so influential in the US as TikTok. It isn't just a privacy issue. They could never misuse any private data or surveillance, but China still shouldn't own it.
