I think 98 was darker. The team basically quit that year, just going through the motions. I'm still seeing effort out of this team. That could change as the season goes on.
This is our darkest hour...
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Was Clemson winning national championships at will during these other days, with no stopping in sight? Not to mention the fact that none of our fans could even tell you when we can even HOPE to beat them.
Believe me this is our darkest hour.
Believe me this is our darkest hour.
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This is not even close to 1998. At least you have some positions that give you hope. The defensive line is starting to look good. Kinlaw has been outstanding all year. I like Ernest Jones at Middle Linebacker. I think we have our QB. I think a decent coach could come in and win with this group right now. Back in 1998, we were so bad that I wouldn't watch the games because I knew we would get smoked by 3-4 TD's by everybody.
Clemson won't win the National Championship this year. Their defense is not as good and Trevor Lawrence is not showing improvement. I wouldn't be surprised in them getting shocked in a road conference game.
They had their lulls last year, but their talent level and experience especially on defense was different. I actually think they will even have a tougher time with us unless our guys have quit by then. Logan Rudolph and Jamie Skalski are not some of the guys they were trotting out there last year.
I actually agree. This is our darkest hour. At least when we were awful in 1998, our rivals weren’t much better. Being bad now is just sad... especially with our rivals dominating us. My Clemson and UGA friends don’t even bother talking smack anymore. I think they consider Alabama a bigger rival these days. We are basically Mississippi State to them. An afterthought.
The sad part is that we have no chance of pulling an upset and salvaging the season. We aren’t beating Clemson or Georgia and our fans will consider a 20 point loss a victory. Just like Bama.
The sad part is that we have no chance of pulling an upset and salvaging the season. We aren’t beating Clemson or Georgia and our fans will consider a 20 point loss a victory. Just like Bama.
So the defending national champs along with being current #1, given all you have seen from our team, and you think they will have a “tougher time” with us?
I think you have a tougher time with reality.
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This comment is stupid. They have steamrolled 3 p5 teams and haven’t even played well. Have you seen their defense? It’s different but still dominant. The game against A&M wasn’t remotely close. When they beat UNC by 50, we will know exactly how big the separation is.
Hardly. Guess you weren`t around for 0-21, when we tore down the goalposts after beating New Mexico State.
I was at that game. In the Zone. In those days I didn’t have to worry about seeing our two biggest rivals on ESPN constantly. We sucked but so did they. I’d rather be in that situation than the one we are in now.
In 1998, I had hope....i believed that if we could get the right coach, we could have a good program. At that time, I believed we were a "Sleeping Giant". Today, after having two legendary coaches in Holtz and Spurrier, both arriving in Columbia with national championships on their resumes, that hope is gone. If coaches of their caliber could not establish a sustained successful program, who can?
Now is worse for me! I have lost hope!
Now is worse for me! I have lost hope!
Oh I was there then. You must not be around for the reality now.
What makes this such a dark hour is the track we were on. I realize versions of this have been posted before. Please, bear with me.
The Spurrier regime, along with the baseball national titles, were heady days indeed. We were building to something. Those two squads, along with women's basketball and selected other events, were showcased on national television constantly. Spurrier was a legend prowling our sidelines. The Clowney hit. The Five-peat. Gameday was a fixture in Columbia.
Then...
For whatever moronic reason, we hire our national champion baseball coach to the high seat of athletic director. The subsequent effect was twofold:
These are indeed Stygian days, folks. What makes it such a bitter pill is how close we were to the brass ring. We did this to ourselves.
"We," being the BOT, and Tanner.
The Spurrier regime, along with the baseball national titles, were heady days indeed. We were building to something. Those two squads, along with women's basketball and selected other events, were showcased on national television constantly. Spurrier was a legend prowling our sidelines. The Clowney hit. The Five-peat. Gameday was a fixture in Columbia.
Then...
For whatever moronic reason, we hire our national champion baseball coach to the high seat of athletic director. The subsequent effect was twofold:
- It severely weakened our baseball program.
- It severely weakened our athletic department.
These are indeed Stygian days, folks. What makes it such a bitter pill is how close we were to the brass ring. We did this to ourselves.
"We," being the BOT, and Tanner.
Watched every game. They haven't played a good team yet and don't even mention A&M. A&M's offense couldn't do anything against Auburn at home either. Clemson is good, but they are not strike fear good, Their defensive line was so good last year that you didn't stand a chance. They have had to beat you more with scheme this year.
What is your point with this Clempson crap as ii relates to us? You think we will beat them? Please tell me that is your point. Or is 21 points close enough.
My point is people claiming this is Carolina's darkest hour because Clemson is so good. Actually, Clemson has not played as good as some think just because they are No.1. Further, people are so disappointed in our start that they are just throwing the team in the trash when they have had periods of competitive football. Bentley hits a wide open Shi Smith in Charlotte and people would have a somewhat more positive outlook. Carolina just needs a win going into the bye week.
Darkest hour? Who knows.
Distance behind our neighbors... NEVER further than right freakin now!
Distance behind our neighbors... NEVER further than right freakin now!
Give it up Ken. I'll take this slow and explain it to you again.........
This staff will not out coach Stoops. I mean, that's just not happening. Our 6th loss in a row to KY is coming Saturday. That puts us at 1-4 on the season. Then we play UGA, no comment necessary. It's a loss. 1-5. Then it's on to Florida and we can't even beat them with a 17 point lead. Plus, no way Champ out coaches Mullen. Another loss. That puts us at 1-6 on the season heading into the last week of Oct.
Ken..... it's over. No no....really, ...... it's over. WB will be an empty sardine can by then, and nothing is going to save Muschamp. He's gone. Don't really care how you feel about it. That's the math of it.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. My freshman year was 77.
That's kind of the trajectory we're currently on right now, wouldn't you say?
At the moment I'd be worried about beating The Citadel.....Clumpson hasn't made it onto the radar as I haven't set the dial to detect "no hope of beating" yet
Good lord, learn the history of SC football before you make stupid posts. While this year has been disappointing so far, consider the facts.
South Carolina football began playing in 1892. The overall record for the program heading into this season was 608-579-44. That's a whopping .512 winning percentage. It took the greatest seasons (three 11-win years) in history by Spurrier to get USC over .500 for it's lifetime.
Muschamp inherited a 3-9 team and went to bowl games in each of his first three years.
So tell me how he took this great and storied program that is USC football (sarcasm implied) and turned it into a dumpster fire? A bad year so far, yes, but the whole history of USC football before him (with a few exceptions) was much worse.
South Carolina football began playing in 1892. The overall record for the program heading into this season was 608-579-44. That's a whopping .512 winning percentage. It took the greatest seasons (three 11-win years) in history by Spurrier to get USC over .500 for it's lifetime.
Muschamp inherited a 3-9 team and went to bowl games in each of his first three years.
So tell me how he took this great and storied program that is USC football (sarcasm implied) and turned it into a dumpster fire? A bad year so far, yes, but the whole history of USC football before him (with a few exceptions) was much worse.
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