Why don't you get in touch with him and guide his defense.
he wont need me... he's charged with a misdemeanor ....hell, i'd get a misdemeanor charge if i spit on someone
Why don't you get in touch with him and guide his defense.
Still gonna be a conviction. Civil proceedings a possibility, and now he has been placed on leave. OJ got off also, sort of.He's charged with 3rd degree assault , a misdemeanor in New York ...
If you spit on someone, that person would probably wind up getting a felony. But you might not be around to see it.he wont need me... he's charged with a misdemeanor ....hell, i'd get a misdemeanor charge if i spit on someone
Still gonna be a conviction. Civil proceedings a possibility, and now he has been placed on leave. OJ got off also, sort of.
If he pleads guilty to anything, and the judge accepts the plea, it goes down as a conviction at that point. We'll see.a conviction.... nope
I think he meant a Stand Your Ground" law.Where did you hear that you can't defend yourself in NY state? Lived there for 20 years and self-defense was always allowed.
Bosox, you are smart enough to know that defense of property is not a proper defense. Defense of yourself or another....absolutely, defense of property....never.I'll defend the guy ....The coach will suffer an inconvenience ... That is all ... He defended himself in stopping a drunk from damaging his property... Good for him
That's a charge to hold him while they investigate further.he wont need me... he's charged with a misdemeanor ....hell, i'd get a misdemeanor charge if i spit on someone
But how do we know the guy didn't swing on the coach first he had already punched one guy.Bosox, you are smart enough to know that defense of property is not a proper defense. Defense of yourself or another....absolutely, defense of property....never.
Do people not read here? Jesus.Again....he is charged, rightfully so, with a misdemeanor, he will not spend time in jail
The deceased should have been arrested for public intoxication and damage to private property. The coach should have called 9-1-1 instead of confronting the drunk himself.Question for the folks defending the deceased? Where was the deceased responsibility in being publicly drunk and already having hit someone? If the police hadn't arrived after the drunk had already hit at least one other person, why would you reasonably assume that they would protect the Wake coach or his property. You tards and your backward thinking, defending a drunk bully and throwing the book at the guy who was minding his own damn business before the drunk entered the picture. SMH. Jesus.
OBJECTION......lolThe deceased should have been arrested for public intoxication and damage to private property. The coach should have called 9-1-1 instead of confronting the drunk himself.
Get into a bar fight, hit someone and they fall and hit their head and die as a result....you're in trouble.
The drunk had already battered at least one person and the cops weren't there, pretty big leap you're making that they would have been useful to the Wake coach at that moment. Again, y'all are FOS.The deceased should have been arrested for public intoxication and damage to private property. The coach should have called 9-1-1 instead of confronting the drunk himself.
Get into a bar fight, hit someone and they fall and hit their head and die as a result....you're in trouble.
Now you're bringing a bar in to bolster your argument? How? No bar mentioned anywhere. Look, I'm a reasonably intelligent person, please defend your position without strawmen or moving the goal post.The deceased should have been arrested for public intoxication and damage to private property. The coach should have called 9-1-1 instead of confronting the drunk himself.
Get into a bar fight, hit someone and they fall and hit their head and die as a result....you're in trouble.
See the problem is that the drunk supposedly hit a guy earlier. The coach didn't know that so couldn't use it as an excuse that he was in fear for his life....not to mention the fact that he was in a car where he was safe but chose to get out and confront the guy. This is exactly how a prosecutor will look at it.The drunk had already battered at least one person and the cops weren't there, pretty big leap you're making that they would have been useful to the Wake coach at that moment. Again, y'all are FOS.
I brought up the bar because that is where most of these type of situations occur. Prosecuted a couple of them.Now you're bringing a bar in to bolster your argument? How? No bar mentioned anywhere. Look, I'm a reasonably intelligent person, please defend your position without strawmen or moving the goal post.
Safe?!? The guy was belligerently drunk and he could have had a weapon. So now we have you saying cops that weren't already there and a car are supposed to defend someone from an attack. Pretty sure GM, Ford, Toyota, etc...don't advertise their vehicles as being a safe place from attack. Try again.See the problem is that the drunk supposedly hit a guy earlier. The coach didn't know that so couldn't use it as an excuse that he was in fear for his life....not to mention the fact that he was in a car where he was safe but chose to get out and confront the guy. This is exactly how a prosecutor will look at it.
There is no bar in the story counselor. Irrelevant.I brought up the bar because that is where most of these type of situations occur. Prosecuted a couple of them.
COULD have had a weapon?!? Facts not in evidence. Nothing mentioned about him having any type of weapon. Don't play loose with the facts.Safe?!? The guy was belligerently drunk and he could have had a weapon. So now we have you saying cops that weren't already there and a car are supposed to defend someone from an attack. Pretty sure GM, Ford, Toyota, etc...don't advertise their vehicles as being a safe place from attack. Try again.
Just as relavent as your bar. Actually more.COULD have had a weapon?!? Facts not in evidence. Nothing mentioned about him having any type of weapon. Don't play loose with the facts.
No....it's not any more relevant. Based on what's in that article, I'd prosecute and would probably win.Just as relavent as your bar. Actually more.
No you wouldn't and you know it. Only way this man suffers is through civil court.No....it's not any more relevant. Based on what's in that article, I'd prosecute and would probably win.
Okay....but you are wrong. This case is not difficult unless something else comes up. My guess....He'll plead to involuntary manslaughter with a sentence recommendation.No you wouldn't and you know it. Only way this man suffers is through civil court.
He is charged with a misdemeanor counselor. Lol.Okay....but you are wrong. This case is not difficult unless something else comes up. My guess....He'll plead to involuntary manslaughter with a sentence recommendation.
Yes I know. That allows them to hold him for a short period while they investigate further. Not unusual at all.He is charged with a misdemeanor counselor. Lol.
So I guess that USC prof. had every right to punch out Stephen Garcia for keying his car. If that had happened I doubt you'd be defending the prof.Question for the folks defending the deceased? Where was the deceased responsibility in being publicly drunk and already having hit someone? If the police hadn't arrived after the drunk had already hit at least one other person, why would you reasonably assume that they would protect the Wake coach or his property. You tards and your backward thinking, defending a drunk bully and throwing the book at the guy who was minding his own damn business before the drunk entered the picture. SMH. Jesus.
You think they are going to find more evidence. You are reaching counselor. Please tell me you did not operate this way as a prosecutor.Yes I know. That allows them to hold him for a short period while they investigate further. Not unusual at all.
I despised Garcia when he acted like a petulant child and embarrassed our program on more than one occasion off the field. When he had his head on straight, he was great. And yes, the professor should have knocked him the eff out for that.So I guess that USC prof. had every right to punch out Stephen Garcia for keying his car. If that had happened I doubt you'd be defending the prof.
Bosox, you are smart enough to know that defense of property is not a proper defense. Defense of yourself or another....absolutely, defense of property....never.
No....it's not any more relevant. Based on what's in that article, I'd prosecute and would probably win.
They also investigate to rule out any exculpatory evidence.You think they are going to find more evidence. You are reaching counselor. Please tell me you did not operate this way as a prosecutor.
True, but he would have to get on the stand to provide a good self-defense claim.50-50 to me. Shouldn't have left. Just takes one juror to buy self defense.
Good luck when he had a car load of sober, non combative witnesses to the whole thing. Honestly, you sound shady as hell now, I can only imagine when you were a prosecutor. And people wonder why the justice system is perceived as a national joke.True, but he would have to get on the stand to provide a good self-defense claim.
Where does it mention that the coaches family was with him. The film shows him walking away by himself.His family was there. He will claim he was afraid for them. Probably truthfully.
Where does it say he had a car full of people with him?Good luck when he had a car load of sober, non combative witnesses to the whole thing. Honestly, you sound shady as hell now, I can only imagine when you were a prosecutor. And people wonder why the justice system is perceived as a national joke.
You earned it after saying you're a former prosecutor and you condone holding people on one charge while trying to come up with others. THAT is shady af.Where does it say he had a car full of people with him?
Appreciate the personal insult.
You earned it after saying you're a former prosecutor and you condone holding people on one charge while trying to come up with others. THAT is shady af.
WTF!! Are you serious? If they actually commit the crime they're being held on, it's not shady. Plus they do get a bail hearing....where of course the other investigation will be brought up.You earned it after saying you're a former prosecutor and you condone holding people on one charge while trying to come up with others. THAT is shady af.
so someone knocking on your car window gives you the right to get out of your car, hit them hard enough to kill them, you leave the scene without calling for medical help, hide out and hope you`re not caught, turn yourself in after you are seen on video - that`s not self-defense to me.
The demographics factor in.