What really happened at 13000 feet?

[FCB 2013 treble]

Just recently was the anniversary of TWA flight 800 (17 July 1996) in which 229 people lost their lives. I am not a conspiracy fan, but something else might have happened rather than a fuel tank explosion that destroyed the 747. Below are some odd things that happened during the investigation.

The FBI hammering on the fuselage to try and straighten out some of the damage that could cover up as to what caused the plane to break apart.

Someone in the hanger was changing tags on pieces of the plane that indicated where it was located in the debris fill (There was three debris fields in the ocean).

Several eyewitnesses saw a missile go up into the air that headed toward the 747, but the FBI and NTSB brushed off the eyewitnesses statements.

There were not enough arc volts going through the fuel tank that would ignite the fuel. The most volts on the aircraft were 115 volts and would not ignite the fuel. The engine ignitor has 1200 volts that would cause the fuel to explode, but that circuit does not run through the tanks.

The debris off the aircraft were moving at mach four in which a fuel explosion could not cause, but rather high explosives.

I am no expert on any of this but watched a documentary and passing this information for documentary.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Just recently was the anniversary of TWA flight 800 (17 July 1996) in which 229 people lost their lives. I am not a conspiracy fan, but something else might have happened rather than a fuel tank explosion that destroyed the 747. Below are some odd things that happened during the investigation.

The FBI hammering on the fuselage to try and straighten out some of the damage that could cover up as to what caused the plane to break apart.

Someone in the hanger was changing tags on pieces of the plane that indicated where it was located in the debris fill (There was three debris fields in the ocean).

Several eyewitnesses saw a missile go up into the air that headed toward the 747, but the FBI and NTSB brushed off the eyewitnesses statements.

There were not enough arc volts going through the fuel tank that would ignite the fuel. The most volts on the aircraft were 115 volts and would not ignite the fuel. The engine ignitor has 1200 volts that would cause the fuel to explode, but that circuit does not run through the tanks.

The debris off the aircraft were moving at mach four in which a fuel explosion could not cause, but rather high explosives.

I am no expert on any of this but watched a documentary and passing this information for documentary.

I remember at the time the missile sighting by multiple witnesses (sub launched?) but not the other stuff.

 

[FCB 2013 treble]

I remember at the time the missile sighting by multiple witnesses (sub launched?) but not the other stuff.

I got the information from documentary

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[FCB 2013 treble]

To clarify, the fuel tank did explode, but some believe that external forces caused the center tank to blow and not a faulty fuel probe quantity indicator.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

To clarify, the fuel tank did explode, but some believe that external forces caused the center tank to blow and not a faulty fuel probe quantity indicator.

It was the Clinton years, you know, when things like this started happening. Waco, Ruby Ridge, the FBI involvement with OK City. Unless I'm thinking of William & Mary.

 

[Flameout12]

If the plane was hit with a missile, there would be external damage just like Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.

Conspiracy theorists love creating their own "facts". But it's entertaining to those attracted to conspiracies. Hollywood loves conspiracies as well...some of them become blockbusters (Jason Bourne).

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Hollywood loves conspiracies

Everybody loves conspiracies. Your side, their side, everybody has their own.

 

[ToddFlanders]

Everybody loves conspiracies. Your side, their side, everybody has their own.

Not everyone. Most conspiracies are generally just enjoyed by those dolts without the ability to comprehend the world around them. Thus they need to create something that helps them to understand. Even if it's a batsh*t crazy idea, if they can convince themselves that they know the explanation (again, no matter how crazy), it gives them comfort.

 

[Lurker123]

Everybody loves conspiracies. Your side, their side, everybody has their own.

But each side thinks theirs aren't really conspiracy theories. Only the "other guys" are the idiots.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

But each side thinks theirs aren't really conspiracy theories. Only the "other guys" are the idiots.

Details

 

[Flameout12]

Everybody loves conspiracies. Your side, their side, everybody has their own.

Some of us hate conspiracies. Just more grifters making $$ off of the gullible.

 

[Flameout12]

Most conspiracies are generally just enjoyed by those dolts without the ability to comprehend the world around them.

 

[JohnnySolo]

The moon is hollow and used as an alien spaceship and there is nothing you can say to convince me otherwise. I read that in a book.

 

[BattleshipTexas]

There could be a lot of sketchy things happen, but a missile strike has been completely disproven. The "witnesses" stories fell apart quickly. Their timing was off, their direction was off and their description of a missile was laughable. That and it is really easy to tell when a plane has been hit by a missile and there was zero evidence of that. A bomb placed on the plane? maybe. Godzilla is as likely bas a missile strike.

 

[Flameout12]

There could be a lot of sketchy things happen, but a missile strike has been completely disproven. The "witnesses" stories fell apart quickly.

It's been suggested that what was witnessed was the jet breaking up which had several explosion events.

Something like this (shuttle Columbia disaster) :

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

The moon is hollow and used as an alien

There actually is evidence for the first part of your sentence, the second part I have seen no credible evidence for. Yet.

 

[Lurker123]

There actually is evidence for the first part of your sentence, the second part I have seen no credible evidence for. Yet.

Hollow? Or porous?

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Hollow? Or porous?

When the Apollo 11 LEM upper stage was sent crashing to the moon to check out the seismic instruments left on the surface they literally said the moon rang like a bell for hours, suggesting it was indeed hollow.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Does the Moon ring like a bell?

NASA used the spent spacecraft for science, directing these modules for controlled crashed into the Moon. These crashes caused moonquakes, and scientists measured the vibrations moving through the Moon and found it rings like a bell.May 27, 2016
https://www.popsci.com › does-mo...
Does the Moon Sound Like a Bell? | Popular Science

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

I usually go off the top of my head when I post. There's a difference between reading about history and actually living it. Some people get that, some don't.

 

[garnet_reign]

I am not a conspiracy fan, but...

It's quite telling that you felt the need to say this right up front. The whole "conspiracy theory" thing was created to box those who might dare to question something into someone who's crazy, especially in the public social square or whatever. The main goal to keep them from saying it out loud.

You're not only right to question the narrative when things don't make sense, it's what you absolutely should do!

Now I need to go look all that up!!

 

[garnet_reign]

Not everyone. Most conspiracies are generally just enjoyed by those dolts without the ability to comprehend the world around them. Thus they need to create something that helps them to understand. Even if it's a batsh*t crazy idea, if they can convince themselves that they know the explanation (again, no matter how crazy), it gives them comfort.

Yeah, because the government(s) would never lie, hide and/or manufacture evidence, etc to cover up misdeeds or things they want to keep from the public. They are 100% transparent.

 

[garnet_reign]

Speaking of conspiracy theories, why is Bill Gates and China buying up all the farming land in the U.S. and has a company producing meat out of fungus, etc? Trying to kill the meat industry? Part of a greater effort to weaken U. S. men by going after protein? Combined with trying to turn boys into girls and girls into boys? Why is our "leadership" letting this happen? The rabbit hole gets deep, quick! 😁

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

Speaking of conspiracy theories, why is Bill Gates and China buying up all the farming land in the U.S. and has a company producing meat out of fungus, etc? Trying to kill the meat industry? Part of a greater effort to weaken U. S. men by going after protein? Combined with trying to turn boys into girls and girls into boys? Why is our "leadership" letting this happen? The rabbit hole gets deep, quick! 😁

This country is gone. Some people just don't realize it yet.

 

[Ward Jr]

Not everyone. Most conspiracies are generally just enjoyed by those dolts without the ability to comprehend the world around them. Thus they need to create something that helps them to understand. Even if it's a batsh*t crazy idea, if they can convince themselves that they know the explanation (again, no matter how crazy), it gives them comfort.

Since you enjoy throwing terms around about conspiracy theorists. Can you please define the parameters in your mind of what constitutes a conspiracy theorist?

It seems those "dolts" have been correct far more over the last two years than our "experts" who try to leverage memes like "conspiracy theory" to rally the last standing minions of the State to endorse their obvious lies? {e.g. Vaccine Effectiveness/Safety, Ukraine corruption, Putin Price Hike, Steele Dossier, Election Tampering, Laptop/Business Dealings, Congress Insider Trading, Vaccine Passport System, Social Credit System, etc.}

 

[Ward Jr]

Speaking of conspiracy theories, why is Bill Gates and China buying up all the farming land in the U.S. and has a company producing meat out of fungus, etc? Trying to kill the meat industry? Part of a greater effort to weaken U. S. men by going after protein? Combined with trying to turn boys into girls and girls into boys? Why is our "leadership" letting this happen? The rabbit hole gets deep, quick! 😁

In the UK, the government is now offering lump sum payments for farmers to quit.

 

[Flameout12]

Since you enjoy throwing terms around about conspiracy theorists. Can you please define the parameters in your mind of what constitutes a conspiracy theorist?

From your list, looks like you're one of them. Enjoy!

 

[Ward Jr]

From your list, looks like you're one of them. Enjoy!

Your answer can't run any deeper than that. Otherwise, you might have to elaborate vs. mindless fly-by name calling.

 

[Neanderthal]

In the UK, the government is now offering lump sum payments for farmers to quit.

And thru are probably saying it with their stomachs full.

 

[JohnnySolo]

When the Apollo 11 LEM upper stage was sent crashing to the moon to check out the seismic instruments left on the surface they literally said the moon rang like a bell for hours, suggesting it was indeed hollow.

Allegedly NASA has set off seismic events on the moon to study its density. Results indicate it’s hollow. Claims of it being an alien spaceship is due to its sudden inclusion in oral and written history.

 

[Neanderthal]

I don’t like messing with the moon. If we screw it up, no telling how it’d effect the Earth. Even if it changed its orbit a tad.

 

[Flameout12]

Your answer can't run any deeper than that. Otherwise, you might have to elaborate vs. mindless fly-by name calling.

Pence is campaigning against trump. I heard there's a conspiracy. Antifa was mentioned.

 

[Ward Jr]

Pence is campaigning against trump. I heard there's a conspiracy. Antifa was mentioned.

The year is 2022 and your TDS rages on. Probably best. You wouldn't want to glance at this current administration.

 

[Flameout12]

The year is 2022 and your TDS rages on. Probably best. You wouldn't want to glance at this current administration.

According to deep state, woke is funneling cash to those traitors who didn't keep trump in. But also leaked is those deleted secret service texts will prove trump won. trump is considering alex jones for a running mate.

 

[Ward Jr]

According to deep state, woke is funneling cash to those traitors who didn't keep trump in. But also leaked is those deleted secret service texts will prove trump won. trump is considering alex jones for a running mate.

Clever as always. Below your posts about Trump and confirmation of TDS. Any posts about Trump on my end are typically in response to TDS victims:
https://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/search/83617/?q=trump&c[users]=Flameout12&o=relevance

 

[Ward Jr]

The actual misinformation and conspiracy specialists will have their day in court....likely multiple times for years to come:

 

[Thirdcatgy]

The actual misinformation and conspiracy specialists will have their day in court....likely multiple times for years to come:

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Should be interesting. Pfizer has now repeatedly leaned on our government's knowledge of fraud multiple times in an effort avoid the fraud charge themselves.

It's hard to wrap my mind around people still labeling individuals "conspiracy theorists" as our government is clearly complicit in pushing these highly questionable and experimental vaccines on children/infants who never needed it in the first place. Quite a juxtaposition.

 

[Thirdcatgy]

Just recently was the anniversary of TWA flight 800 (17 July 1996) in which 229 people lost their lives. I am not a conspiracy fan, but something else might have happened rather than a fuel tank explosion that destroyed the 747. Below are some odd things that happened during the investigation.

The FBI hammering on the fuselage to try and straighten out some of the damage that could cover up as to what caused the plane to break apart.

Someone in the hanger was changing tags on pieces of the plane that indicated where it was located in the debris fill (There was three debris fields in the ocean).

Several eyewitnesses saw a missile go up into the air that headed toward the 747, but the FBI and NTSB brushed off the eyewitnesses statements.

There were not enough arc volts going through the fuel tank that would ignite the fuel. The most volts on the aircraft were 115 volts and would not ignite the fuel. The engine ignitor has 1200 volts that would cause the fuel to explode, but that circuit does not run through the tanks.

The debris off the aircraft were moving at mach four in which a fuel explosion could not cause, but rather high explosives.

I am no expert on any of this but watched a documentary and passing this information for documentary.

Will definitely watch the movie. My understanding was that it was a very faulty design - the A/C was too close to the fuel tank maybe? Chances are they ran the passenger list up the flag pole to make certain their were no persons of interest on board.

 

[Thirdcatgy]

Those who mentally default to "conspiracy theory" as their comfort solution are equally as problematic as CS extremists themselves. The last two years drive that point home with emphasis. You must look both ways and not just blindly trust the word of government officials - especially in this day and age. Your life could depend on it.

 

[BattleshipTexas]

Allegedly NASA has set off seismic events on the moon to study its density. Results indicate it’s hollow. Claims of it being an alien spaceship is due to its sudden inclusion in oral and written history.

If it was hollow, it wouldn't be heavy enough to impact the tides. They know very close to how much it weighs by the math of the gravity pull on tides in the ocean. It isn't hollow, it can't be.