When you play against Wofford, App. St, Wake, BC and Syracuse week in and week out, it's hard to find losses.
But the answer for the present time is that dabo the clown spent the money to hire what have proven to be some good asst coaches under him. Those coaches, in turn, have put in the time and effort recruiting excellent talent. Right now, it's all come together for them, and it looks as though it will stay together for them for the foreseeable future.
As bad we are, as much of a disaster as our team is, we still beat the likely division winner in the ACC on a neutral field. Any more questions?I mean doesn't every team go into a drought?
I think that when you get old (like me) it is a lot easier to accept reality and be gracious about competitive matters. I have a lot of older gamecock friends who are all very complimentary of this Clemson team. I was also humbly complimentary of those 11-win SC teams. I think that young people with excellent vision can see better but they just don't have the humility to look at life clearly. Your team has been playing extremely hard the last two games. They deserve a lot of credit. I'm sure it is not an easy predicament.
As bad we are, as much of a disaster as our team is, we still beat the likely division winner in the ACC on a neutral field. Any more questions?
No commitment to being good. When a commitment was made to hire the right coach and make the changes necessary to facilities, recruiting improved. HBC was a good coach so they won consistently. See 5 in a row if you don't believe it.
Clemson was always committed to being a good FB program.
Keep pretending it didn't happen if it makes you feel better.Keep hanging your hat on that if it makes you feel better.
And this is the reason why we can't move on.....celebrating moral victories. Who cares if we beat UNC, how is that helping US?
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Since the schedule expanded to 12 games many years ago, both Clemson and SC have normally played 7 of 12 games at home. This is nothing new. It's almost a formula:
- 8 conf game (4 home, 4 road)
- in state FCS opponent ( home)
- lower level FBS opponent like App St (home)
- Power 5 OOC (for CU, normally SEC or ND. alternates. If SC game is at home, this game is on the road and vice versa.
- SC rivalry game (obviously rotates each year)
There is sometimes a quirk with a neutral field kick off game, but for this is the standard template. No evil conspiracy cooked up a diabolical plan to help Clemson make the playoff in 2015.
Has everything to do with your reply. If they are coached so well, recruit so well, and perform so well, then why have we dominated them for so long? Does that help? I can't dumb it down much more than that.No, I was replying to the guy who is still talking about winning 5 of 6. It has absolutely nothing to do with my reply to the OP. I am much more concerned with the future than the past.
hard to even guess, it's like comparing apples to orangesI'd say 7-2.
Thanks for the explanation. But I don't know what it has to do with my comments about us getting serious about competing.Let me splain it to ya.........and this should put it into perspective for all the taters out there as well.............
To show the strength (and I use that term lightly) of the ACC, when FSU joined, didn't they win something like 30 ACC games in a row? I mean seriously, they went on a run of like 3 1/2 years before finally dropping a game. Didn't they have another win streak of around 24 games in the conference up to this year (or sometime last year).
Does anyone think the SEC would ever have another team go three years without a loss? That tells you about top to bottom strength vs lack of it (or non-parity) in the ACC.
NOTE: I know I could look up the exact numbers for you for the FSU win STREAKS......but I really don't care about the ACC cause they suck top to bottom.
I will give the taters credit.........they have a good team this year. But make no mistake......their schedule should garner a minimum of 8+ wins per year.
Has everything to do with your reply. If they are coached so well, recruit so well, and perform so well, then why have we dominated them for so long? Does that help? I can't dumb it down much more than that.
IF they make the playoffs they will lose in the 1st round.No problem.
you act like that's losing in the first round of the big dance or something, its freaking hard to make the college football playoffs
Are you slow or just a Clemson fan? Sorry, same thing I guess. The point wasn't that we beat UNC, the point was no matter how bad a team is, it's hard to lose a game in the ACC. It's nearly impossible for a team to have a down year with an ACC schedule because even their best teams are a joke. Other than Florida State and Clemson there isn't another team in the whole conference that is any good at all. Those schools don't care about football. The real question is how does Clemson ever have a season they don't win 10 games?And this is the reason why we can't move on.....celebrating moral victories. Who cares if we beat UNC, how is that helping US?
Is it that you can't answer the question or you just refuse to because it destroys your weak argument?Not too good with reading comprehension I see. Can you dumb down enough to read the OP and then read my response to it? I doubt it.
UPC fans don't debate - especially when things are going well. They march - and think in lockstep.But what I don't get...why do you even care to post here? Why not go to tigernet and debate with Clemson fans?
Are you slow or just a Clemson fan? Sorry, same thing I guess. The point wasn't that we beat UNC, the point was no matter how bad a team is, it's hard to lose a game in the ACC. It's nearly impossible for a team to have a down year with an ACC schedule because even their best teams are a joke. Other than Florida State and Clemson there isn't another team in the whole conference that is any good at all. Those schools don't care about football. The real question is how does Clemson ever have a season they don't win 10 games?
Has everything to do with your reply. If they are coached so well, recruit so well, and perform so well, then why have we dominated them for so long? Does that help? I can't dumb it down much more than that.
I'm not getting into yet another schedule dissection but this is a 100% correct comment. And why I would not at all be surprised if both Bama and LSU lose this weekend.
Let me splain it to ya.........and this should put it into perspective for all the taters out there as well.............
To show the strength (and I use that term lightly) of the ACC, when FSU joined, didn't they win something like 30 ACC games in a row? I mean seriously, they went on a run of like 3 1/2 years before finally dropping a game. Didn't they have another win streak of around 24 games in the conference up to this year (or sometime last year).
Does anyone think the SEC would ever have another team go three years without a loss? That tells you about top to bottom strength vs lack of it (or non-parity) in the ACC.
NOTE: I know I could look up the exact numbers for you for the FSU win STREAKS......but I really don't care about the ACC cause they suck top to bottom.
I will give the taters credit.........they have a good team this year. But make no mistake......their schedule should garner a minimum of 8+ wins per year.
tougher than anything taders scheduleMissouri, Vandy, Kentucky, Citadel, UCF. Are those really super tough?
tougher than anything taders scheduleMissouri, Vandy, Kentucky, Citadel, UCF. Are those really super tough?
Out of curiosity, when we compare schedules between the two teams, why do we always pick the worst 3 or 4 teams they play and the best 3 or 4 we play? Why wouldn't you compare Wofford, App St., Wake, and BC to Citadel, Vandy, UK, and UCF instead? It's obvious, and it comes off as disingenuous every time.I think the consensus is that clemsux has a good team. The real question is how good. To try to match what we have faced vs what they have faced. I think clemsux would beat us....but I am not sure they would beat every team we have played. The schedule says your SOS is high...but the Wofford, App.St. Wake and BC doesn't seem to add up to UGA, Tennessee, LSU and Texas A&M. That's why I take the SOS with a grain of salt.
Out of curiosity, when we compare schedules between the two teams, why do we always pick the worst 3 or 4 teams they play and the best 3 or 4 we play? Why would you compare Wofford, App St., Wake, and BC to Citadel, Vandy, UK, and UCF instead? It's obvious, and it comes off as disingenuous every time.
When you play against Wofford, App. St, Wake, BC and Syracuse week in and week out, it's hard to find losses.
But the answer for the present time is that dabo the clown spent the money to hire what have proven to be some good asst coaches under him. Those coaches, in turn, have put in the time and effort recruiting excellent talent. Right now, it's all come together for them, and it looks as though it will stay together for them for the foreseeable future.
LOL
SEC Least is the worst division of all the P5 conferences this year, worse than even the ACC Coastal so tell me about that murderous schedule again?
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...est-sec-east-division-rankings-advanced-stats