No one said fire Frank now. We make the tournament next year and everyone is good. The fact that we were projected to finish last two years after making the tournament is unimpressive but at least we played well and proved the prognosticators wrong. How about a season where we play well beginning to end. If we had done it this year we'd be dancing. But I shouldn't expect that because our history doesn't support it. If George Felton had fielded better teams Frank Martin would recruit better.
Cheating can also be a major backfire. You have to get away with it for a while before you can reach any sustainable success. Look how quickly Wade got caught. LSU is likely to get stripped bare and be a non-factor for a while. If and when we go away from Frank Martin, we should go after a known commodity. Maybe OKC will tank next season and put Billy Donovan back on the market. I know I don't want any coaches from the little south or southern, or any small conference for that matter. Maybe we can hope Rick Patino makes early parole. LOL
Word is Avery Johnson is looking to get out of there. He is convinced Bama will never support basketball.
So: Dance next Year or Out of Here. You good with that?
I feel your pain please accept my humble apology and God Bless America and all the pygmies in New GuineaOh lawd! Now you done hurt me feelings bigtime! Oh lawd, I demand an apology!
that is my Opinion..... Not sure about "cadcock", but absolutely, I even think it should be more than Brely make it, he needs to be a Rock Solid In, not Bubble in...
The way I see it, Horn left our team in shambles. Frank took over and produced teams that got better 5 years straight. It took until year 4 to build a competitive team and one that should have made the tournament (beat a Vandy squad twice that made it even though they finished lower in the conference). Year 5 he takes a senior laden team to the promised land with a Final Four, which led to losing PJ early. Year 6 the team took a step backward as expected after replacing most of its production. Year 7, Freshman finish way ahead of any projections but multiple injuries have us playing short most of the year keeping us on the bubble down the stretch. Year 8, expectations will be high with the major question being who steps up to fill Silva's void. I fully expect the team to make the tournament but I've been a Gamecock for way too long to not expect the unexpected. I refuse to throw the baby out with the bath water. I don't lay the blame at Muschamp's feet for a less than stellar defense due to the injuries this year. I think Frank is an excellent coach and will judge him at the end of next season based on the totality of what happens. I would want the same benefit of the doubt in my job as well.
You probably wouldn't get it. Your manager would be smarter than that. He would say, "Never confuse effort with success."
You make me sick with all your facts and logic there's no place for that when talking about Frank Martin.
My coach would say there's no success without effort you can't have one without the other.
Yeah you can. You can try your @$$ off and come up short. That's one without the other.
I did not mention effort once, in fact I wrote specifically about RESULTS and cited where Frank took a dumpster fire and progressively made it better for 5 straight years until he led us to the first Final Four appearance in the history of our program. You on the other hand want to wave those results off as somehow a fluke which is a back hand to that teams effort and Frank's development. So don't confuse bitching about something as actually having done something.
Those results are in the rear-view mirror. And in the rear-view mirror, they're getting smaller and harder to see all the time - unless the only way you look is backwards through binoculars and then a telescope. I myself need something else to look at - something more proximate to the vehicle I'm in.
And you can NOT try your ass off and come up short every time without a doubt. I'll take the trying odds. I'll take the ones who try and you take the other ones and see who wins more. I could "try" to kick Mike Tyson's butt and lose, you NOT TRY against his sister and get your ass kicked.
I absolutely agree. It's as if some folks want him to fail next year just so they can say I told you so.
I'm sure coaches will be lining up to come here if Coach Martin were to get fired.
Nobody's advocating not trying. We're talking about trying but it not being enough. Not trying isn't even on the table.
This is the crux of the problem for next year. I don't see anyone on this team that's ready to even come close next year.
What will all the Fire Frank Now guys say when the new coach comes in and they have to give him a pass because Frank has "left the cupboard so bare"? 2-3-4 more years of rebuilding from this "mediocre" team is what you will get. Frank is the only way out in the next 2-3 years.
It’s sad when the passenger door side mirror is smarter than most of this board.
It doesn't say that in the rearview mirror. I was talking about the rearview mirror. I said rearview mirror. You are talking about the side-view mirror. Not a perspicacious retort.Objects in that mirror may be closer than they appear
I'm completely sanguine. I'm having fun with all this. But that doesn't mean I want to defer success for another 8-10 years trying to ease a coach into retirement because people like him.
