We were the ONLY school willing to give him a chance to be Head Coach. How many schools are willing to give someone who has never been a Head Coach, nor OC or DC a chance to coach in the toughest football conference in college football? The closest was Arkansas with Sam Pittman. He was a Head Coach for 2 seasons, barely producing better than a .500 record at a junior college. That was 30 years ago. Pittman never has been a Coordinator. And his seat is blazing, with some thinking he will be fired by Halloween. I'm not saying fire Beamer after this season (unless the team implodes). Fans need to be demanding, rather than excusing, especially someone with his resume. Are Arkansas fans more demanding than South Carolina fans?
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Beamer makes 6.4 million dollars. Wowsa. Really remarkable to make that much considering.
Well, he got that extension after those 8 days of euphoria. (UT and CU)
And I thought I read where that puts him near middle or lower of SEC coaches. So, aside from it being over inflated college coaching salaries in general, it is probably about right.
We just need to hold the horses on other extensions in the near future. Imo
With our luck, he will go 6-6 this season and get a 10-year extension.
Literally my worst fear. "we are on an upward trajectory!"
There are some that would think this is a successful season, as long as they could say the other teams spent more on NIL.
MY CONCLUSION:
The NIL proponents will point to how much some teams spend on one player. That means nothing to me. They may be putting all their eggs in relatively few baskets. The best thing I saw regarding NIL availability was something you, I think, posted that showed NIL team value of the 2024 rosters. We were around the middle of the SEC. The only teams far and away from us were Texas, Georgia and Alabama. The proof is always in the pudding. Look at the high school recruiting rankings. The 2 SEC teams often cited here, Missouri and Ole Miss, recruiting rankings are 9th and 11th respectively in the SEC. We join them in the bottom half of the SEC at 13th in the 16-team conference, relatively close to Missouri and Ole Miss.
People cite the difficulty of our schedule. ESPN rated our schedule as the 11th most difficult in the 16-team SEC. So, 10 SEC teams have a harder schedule than us. That tells me that we will rarely have an easy schedule.
So, people should stop with the NIL and schedule excuses. Beamer is not the recruiter who was sold to us. The schedule will usually be tough. If Beamer is going to succeed at South Carolina, he is going to have to do "more with less". He is going to have to "coach up" his players and pull off some upsets. This year's schedule gives him a chance to show if he has that in him. I like Shane and am pulling for him. It's nothing personal. He has to "win anyway".
What do you think of "my conclusion"?
Pretty much agree.
For the NIL, we need either a reliable source to compare, or well, I was going to say stop complaining. But that will never happen. I guess we just can't put credence in NIL numbers until we get real comparisons.
And yes, we are and have been at a disadvantage in the SEC. It's not suddenly going to get easier.
We just need the season to start already.
Here Stock goes again. "YOUR CONCLUSION"
Until our best players stop walking out the door -- we have a huge NIL issue.
Please explain how these hacks are coming up with NIL money rankings when that information is not being released? They aren't.
And it's like compounding interest, because when you're losing your best players on a yearly basis and also don't have the funds to buy the top talent from high school ---- you're working in exponentials over the 4-year period.
Spurrier's comment about the $30 million per year cap was a good benchmark for what these bigger NIL teams might be spending. He's tied in tight at UF and knows all of the SEC brass too. I'd trust that far more than clickbait sites.
There you go again Ward ignoring the players coming in.
So, there are no NIL money rankings? Then that makes bringing up NIL as an issue irrelevant once and for all.
And it makes bringing up "funds" as an issue irrelevant once and for all, since that data is not released for each school.
We don't know what we don't know.
We've had this discussion over and over again about how picking up random players to try to fill holes of good players we've lost is a total losing proposition and you've agreed with that notion. So are you trolling or just forgetful?
We have plenty of NIL clues. Best players leaving. Not signing big 4 and 5 stars with NIL deals. Spurrier quotes, etc.
It isn't hard to deduce what is happening whatsoever.
I don't know what I agreed to. You must be confusing me with someone else. Here is what I know I mentioned to you before: We lost 6 Four stars and brought in 7 Four stars. So are you trolling or just forgetful? 😊We've had this discussion over and over again about how picking up random players to try to fill holes of good players we've lost who knew the system is a total losing proposition and you've agreed. So are you trolling or just forgetful?
We have plenty of NIL clues. Best players leaving. Not signing big 4 and 5 stars with NIL deals. Spurrier quotes, etc. It isn't hard to deduce what is happening whatsoever.
Please provide those lists.
Also, please explain how taking your best players off of a team at the end of each season can be remedied by adding new players who haven't played a down with a squad? Ratings don't mean much in this context.
The problem is even that is vague. It's asking too much, I know, but I'd like to see actual NIL budgets for schools.
Things would be so much less Grey if we could see our $20 million compared directly to someone else's $18 million and someone else's $50 million..
But as I said, I think that's asking too much. I have no confidence we'll ever see a true apples to apples comparison.
Even with these caps that have been proposed, to be run by the schools, it leaves open the door for 3rd party deals. And proposes a watchdog to "make sure it's not just pay for play". I think that'll work about as well as the old system of asking for transfer waivers.
They are on the On3 site. Just go there and click on 2024 College Football team Transfer Portal Rankings. Then click on "South Carolina" and see the players lost and those coming in. And as I told you before: They rank our Portal Class number 10 in the nation.
All teams get and lose players. By the way, Juice Wells 2023 production will be hard to replace. 😉
There's one 4-star pickup in that list. Please show me any other SEC team who has lost their best players two years straight? We've been through this and you can't -- but try again for good measure.
We all would Lurker. But if your name is not DeeDave, you can perform a little critical thinking and figure out much of what's going on.
Better go back and look again: 7 four stars. And yes, we will have a hard time replacing Juice Wells 2023 production. 😊
Are you talking about the rating system below the rating system on the clickbait page? I took the top level ratings with the number attached to it to be the correct ones.
Go to the South Carolina On3 site and click on what I previously told you to click. They have the players leaving and where they are going to, along with their star rating. And they have the players coming in and from where with their star rating. But AGAIN, just look at our ranking, alone...#10 in the nation. They did not give us that ranking for charitable purposes.
You're a clickbait specialist Stock. You've done this with lame hit pieces on Beamer and now this crap.
Please show us any school in the SEC who is losing their best players each season.
No team in the country wants to lose their best players and have to replace them overnight with another group of players who have never played a down for the team.
If you believe that's the case, there's no way you've ever played on a team in your life.
Botmaster - You're trolling is out of control. Try to get it together.
I realize Watson is a troll himself. However, that subject matter was super lame and totally classless.
I realize Watson is a troll himself. However, that subject matter was super lame and totally classless.
First of all, I passed along information on Beamer that was /is in the public space. I was just the messenger.
Our Transfer Portal Class was raked number 10 in the Nation.
1. Go to the SC On3 site. At the top of the page, click on the Football down arrow.
2. Click on Transfer Portal
3. At the top, click on Transfer Team Portal Rankings
4. Then click on South Carolina (which you will see is number 10 in the nation)
Then you will see a list of the players going and coming.
Get it together Chief Troll and Trouble-maker.
Our Transfer Portal Class was raked number 10 in the Nation.
1. Go to the SC On3 site. At the top of the page, click on the Football down arrow.
2. Click on Transfer Portal
3. At the top, click on Transfer Team Portal Rankings
4. Then click on South Carolina (which you will see is number 10 in the nation)
Then you will see a list of the players going and coming.
Get it together Chief Troll and Trouble-maker.
I've seen the clickbait Stock. It's a site trying to place rankings on players on the fly who have entered the portal. You cannot assess what the value of a player to a team.
It's totally different than a general ranking system for high school players because none of them have played a down for any college team so you can assign generalized values.
Get it?
LMAO. I knew you would not accept anything that proves you wrong. No surprise there.
Anytime you would like to show us an SEC losing it's best players each year, we'll be right here.
Now back to your investments.
I showed you the list of players coming and going, as well as our Transfer Portal ranking (which I KNEW you would ignore).
But thanks for thinking about my investments. I just checked my portfolio. So far today, it's up 3.21% to the S&P 500's 1.57%. Auto-pilot can be good.
Vandy and Arkansas have lost some of their top talent too I think. Not that we want to be in close company with those teams though.
I'm hopeful that next year will stop the bleeding with schools being about to get involved directly. Although, unless there's a universal cap on spending, none of it makes any sense either way.
It's a shame what they've done to a great game and what was great Fall Season entertainment.
Maybe you should write another post about your wealth given that knowledge. Those hit real well too.
I agree with that. Truthfully, it has become less meaningful to me, as a result.
Even with the cap, the proposals I saw allowed for 3rd party NIL deals. (Not sure you can stop them now)
If those continue, teams with caps will have a built in workaround.
I read some nonsense about the NCAA overseeing those 3rd party agreements, but I don't have any faith in that.
Have they increased the number of scholarships that a school can give out? I think they have. That will help the elite and hurt schools like SC. The NCAA has revealed its agenda.
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