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He deserves every cent of it if he continues his winning ways....Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
Hearing AL is considering offering Marshall this "type" of contract. Comments?
He'll always be second fiddle behind football in Tuscaloosa. Not so in Wichita.Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
Actually Cockhorn, that was a point introduced by his side. Facility upgrades, commitment to the sport promotion, extras, etc. Keen insight.
Originally posted by DirtyCock99:
Marshall is headed south... Just a little more west than Alabama.
Originally posted by jackrabbit slim:
Originally posted by DirtyCock99:
Marshall is headed south... Just a little more west than Alabama.
Nope. That will be Shaka Smart.
That depends on who you believe in the media... But, if it is Smart to Texas. I'd put good money on Marshall staying in Wichita.
This is so completely and utterly wrong I don't know where to start.Originally posted by dcdayday:
Which is why South Carolina didn't offer him a job because he was asking for too much.
Whatever Hyman's reasons were, they shouldn't have gotten in the way of hiring someone who could have led USC out of its MBB doldrums.Originally posted by goldengamecock:
This is so completely and utterly wrong I don't know where to start.Originally posted by dcdayday:
Which is why South Carolina didn't offer him a job because he was asking for too much.
More incorrect info on why Hyman passed on offering or even interviewing him twice.
Marshall didn't get a call when Horn was hired, but the second time around USC reached out, but wasn't offering enough money to continue the conversation.Originally posted by goldengamecock:
This is so completely and utterly wrong I don't know where to start.Originally posted by dcdayday:
Which is why South Carolina didn't offer him a job because he was asking for too much.
More incorrect info on why Hyman passed on offering or even interviewing him twice.
This is the truth. I have heard this from more than one member of the BOT.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
Marshall didn't get a call when Horn was hired, but the second time around USC reached out, but wasn't offering enough money to continue the conversation.Originally posted by goldengamecock:
This is so completely and utterly wrong I don't know where to start.Originally posted by dcdayday:
Which is why South Carolina didn't offer him a job because he was asking for too much.
More incorrect info on why Hyman passed on offering or even interviewing him twice.
How is it that a pgm like Wichita St. can outbid USC for a MBB coach? Just another example of Hyman head being cheap and not focusing on his job. After all, he wouldn't want a USC MBB coach that might beat UNC in a regional.Originally posted by alston:
This is the truth. I have heard this from more than one member of the BOT.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
Marshall didn't get a call when Horn was hired, but the second time around USC reached out, but wasn't offering enough money to continue the conversation.Originally posted by goldengamecock:
This is so completely and utterly wrong I don't know where to start.Originally posted by dcdayday:
Which is why South Carolina didn't offer him a job because he was asking for too much.
More incorrect info on why Hyman passed on offering or even interviewing him twice.
Originally posted by CaliCock:
CBS reported 6 years, $20 mil, which is still not chicken feed but its not $4mil a year
hell, if it were me I would have made that offer to Marshall before we hired Martin, that was exactly the kind of act we needed to make to show the entire college basketball world that we were getting serious about competing, and not the crappy half-measures we have been taking. Now, most likely he's going to Tuscaloosa who we have to play every stinking year, which is going to be a major stick in our collective eyes when he takes his team and whips our asses for the next ten years.
Golden.. you are correct. .But "whys" and " what ifs" of erroneous remarks will continue.Originally posted by goldengamecock:
This is so completely and utterly wrong I don't know where to start.Originally posted by dcdayday:
Which is why South Carolina didn't offer him a job because he was asking for too much.
More incorrect info on why Hyman passed on offering or even interviewing him twice.
He may indeed have his eyes on Syracuse, especially since he is not from there and has no connections to the Syracuse program.Originally posted by Cock-Vader:
Marshall has his eye on Syracuse... just my opinion. He'll get big money but I don't see him going to a football school like Bama. He's in a better position to win a title where he is now.
What were his connections to Wichita St?Originally posted by AtlasShrugged:
He may indeed have his eyes on Syracuse, especially since he is not from there and has no connections to the Syracuse program.Originally posted by Cock-Vader:
Marshall has his eye on Syracuse... just my opinion. He'll get big money but I don't see him going to a football school like Bama. He's in a better position to win a title where he is now.
Uncalled for sarcasm notwithstanding, allow me to explain. The Syracuse job will be open in three years. The longer Marshall holds out, the more money he is worth. He has NO reason to leave Wich. St. for anything less than a top 10 basketball job. Syracuse fits the bill. However, if you disagree, yay for you. That's why I said in my original post - and I quote - JUST MY OPINION.Originally posted by AtlasShrugged:
He may indeed have his eyes on Syracuse, especially since he is not from there and has no connections to the Syracuse program.Originally posted by Cock-Vader:
Marshall has his eye on Syracuse... just my opinion. He'll get big money but I don't see him going to a football school like Bama. He's in a better position to win a title where he is now.
Football and men's basketball are actually the only two revenue-generating sports at most schools. There are rare exceptions, such as a handful of elite baseball programs and women's basketball programs, but in general those two are it. The NCAA Tournament brings in crazy amounts of money. Hell, the marketing opportunities afforded the participating schools makes it worth showing up without receiving a cut of the cash.Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
Personally, I don't care where he goes or doesn't go. The woulda, coulda, and shoulda stuff is irrelevant. I was amazed at the amount of money to be put on the table for a non-revenue generating sport. Only places like WS can get revenue out of that sport. No competition.
Good post, IMO, 4thgengamecock. The old BE started off as a basketball league. Football was sponsored much later.Originally posted by 4thgengamecock:
Football and men's basketball are actually the only two revenue-generating sports at most schools. There are rare exceptions, such as a handful of elite baseball programs and women's basketball programs, but in general those two are it. The NCAA Tournament brings in crazy amounts of money. Hell, the marketing opportunities afforded the participating schools makes it worth showing up without receiving a cut of the cash.Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
Personally, I don't care where he goes or doesn't go. The woulda, coulda, and shoulda stuff is irrelevant. I was amazed at the amount of money to be put on the table for a non-revenue generating sport. Only places like WS can get revenue out of that sport. No competition.
The revenue-generating nature of men's basketball is basically what tore apart the old Big East. The non-football members hitched their wagon to basketball and the NCAA tournament, while the football members made a play for the major bowls and TV contracts. Both sides were making major dollars and both sides wanted conference rules favoring them (because, dammit we're the ones making all the money!).
^^^rock walls...one entrance^^^Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
Personally, I don't care where he goes or doesn't go. The woulda, coulda, and shoulda stuff is irrelevant. I was amazed at the amount of money to be put on the table for a non-revenue generating sport. Only places like WS can get revenue out of that sport. No competition.
...much less his new team, which would be in the same conference.Originally posted by jerryusc:
How is it that a pgm like Wichita St. can outbid USC for a MBB coach? Just another example of Hyman head being cheap and not focusing on his job. After all, he wouldn't want a USC MBB coach that might beat UNC in a regional.Originally posted by alston:
This is the truth. I have heard this from more than one member of the BOT.Originally posted by ToddFlanders:
Marshall didn't get a call when Horn was hired, but the second time around USC reached out, but wasn't offering enough money to continue the conversation.Originally posted by goldengamecock:
This is so completely and utterly wrong I don't know where to start.Originally posted by dcdayday:
Which is why South Carolina didn't offer him a job because he was asking for too much.
More incorrect info on why Hyman passed on offering or even interviewing him twice.
I would argue that it's not totally about the money you make directly from the program. The marketing from the tournament is what you're really after. It's one of the most-watched events in America, maybe a half-step down from the Super Bowl. Teams that do well get major publicity just for showing up. Florida Gulf Coast saw a massive surge in applications the year they went to the Sweet 16.Originally posted by saltlifeGamecock:
4th, I agree in theory. But most 5 majors only "make" a mil or so. I read that these programs generally speaking break even or actually lose money when all is said and done. As I alluded, BBQ only conferences do make money, but nothing close to that generated by "major" conference football programs. Period.
If he is a great coach why is he not going to Alabama ?Originally posted by Bigger_Stronger_Faster:
You Marshall bashers just won't admit it...but you know now you were wrong.
Honestly, no one knows how the man will do once he signs with a big program. But one things for sure...he's gonna make a lot of money.
He loves USC and in hindsight we should've given him the chance.
ima hang up and let y'all keep at it.