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LOL. Uh no they wouldn't. They are reveling in beating TCU because TCU has beat them 18 out of the last 22 times they have played. SMU hasn't beaten Texas since 1985. SMU hasn't beaten Oklahoma since 1968. They haven't beaten Oklahoma State since 1950. Baylor has beat SMU the last 13 times they have played. Texas Tech has beat SMU the last 15 times they have played. Realistically, SMU would have as much chance competing in the Big 12 as it would the SEC. Actually better, they might beat Vanderbilt in the SEC. In the Big 12 they go o-fer the conference almost every year. This isn't the Eric Dickerson days when they were openly paying players and got the death penalty for it. SMU downsized football after that. They are a small private school, with just over 6,000 undergraduate students and play in a stadium that seats 32,000. There are a dozen high schools in Dallas-Fort Worth with bigger stadiums.I would’ve loved to see SMU somehow get into the Big XII. Obviously, they know how to play the money game and would compete rather quickly, if not rise toward the top.
LOL. Uh no they wouldn't. They are reveling in beating TCU because TCU has beat them 18 out of the last 22 times they have played. SMU hasn't beaten Texas since 1985. SMU hasn't beaten Oklahoma since 1968. They haven't beaten Oklahoma State since 1950. Baylor has beat SMU the last 13 times they have played. Texas Tech has beat SMU the last 15 times they have played. Realistically, SMU would have as much chance competing in the Big 12 as it would the SEC. Actually better, they might beat Vanderbilt in the SEC. In the Big 12 they go o-fer the conference almost every year. This isn't the Eric Dickerson days when they were openly paying players and got the death penalty for it. SMU downsized football after that. They are a small private school, with just over 6,000 undergraduate students and play in a stadium that seats 32,000. There are a dozen high schools in Dallas-Fort Worth with bigger stadiums.
The largest is about 20,000. The smallest in the top 50 seats 11,000. What's the largest in South Carolina?There is not a single Hs stadium in Texas that have bigger Hs stadiums than 32,000.
TCU's undergraduate enrollment is 10,222.There is not a single Hs stadium in Texas that have bigger Hs stadiums than 32,000. Also, TCU is a private school that never has drawn high attendance either, but they have proven they can compete in the Big 12.
SMU also has an enrollment that is larger than TCU.
Put SMu in the Big 12 and they will recruit better and gain more fan interest. They did go through some awful times after The Death Penalty including allowing 95 vs Houston once. Still, the program has absolutely improved recently
Clemson definitely deserved it. But after the NCAA saw what a football death penalty meant to the non-revenue sports they kind of decided never to drop that hammer again. But SMU my god! They had to keep paying players after they got busted because the players had signed contracts!If the NCAA would have done what they should have back then, we could be discussing clemson and their demise from the death penalty also just like smu.
That's my thoughts on this topic. 😬
LOL. Uh no they wouldn't. They are reveling in beating TCU because TCU has beat them 18 out of the last 22 times they have played. SMU hasn't beaten Texas since 1985. SMU hasn't beaten Oklahoma since 1968. They haven't beaten Oklahoma State since 1950. Baylor has beat SMU the last 13 times they have played. Texas Tech has beat SMU the last 15 times they have played. Realistically, SMU would have as much chance competing in the Big 12 as it would the SEC. Actually better, they might beat Vanderbilt in the SEC. In the Big 12 they go o-fer the conference almost every year. This isn't the Eric Dickerson days when they were openly paying players and got the death penalty for it. SMU downsized football after that. They are a small private school, with just over 6,000 undergraduate students and play in a stadium that seats 32,000. There are a dozen high schools in Dallas-Fort Worth with bigger stadiums.
You have it backwards, all of SMU's wins were before the death penalty, when they were relevant. In recent years they haven't beaten a single Big 12 team except for TCU. Texas Tech has beaten them the last 15 times they have played. Baylor the last 13. SMU is o-fer the Big 12 in the last 20 years except for TCU. Most of us think the death penalty handed out to SMU was unfair, or at least disproportionate to what other equally guilty teams were hit with. But it killed their football program as far as being big time. SMU would be murdered in the Big 12.What’s the scholarship limit for football? I honestly don’t know, but I have no doubt SMU could hang in the Big XII. Past records mean nothing although they’ve won over 32% each against mighty Texas (22-47-4) and TT (16-33). Both are 6 times the size of SMU. The Mustangs have done even better against TCU (42-51-7) and Baylor (36-39-7). They’ve only faced OU (1-5) and OSU (2-4) 6 times each, not much to go on.
Not to mention, a lot of these losses were during the BS death penalty years handed down on a little ole 6,000 enrollment school. The NCAA didn’t have the balls to do it to any of the “bigger” schools who were doing the same damn thing. But all of those other Texas schools sure were nervous of them.
Again, I believe SMU could more than hold their own, especially when you factor in the NIL setup now.
They have a better coach than we do.
Well, after SMU’s 42-34 win over TCU, you can now find a new SMU billboard on west-bound I-30 in Fort Worth…
Interesting, because their coach is Sonny Dykes, the son of legendary coach Spike Dykes. So two coaches both sons of more well known coaches.They have a better coach than we do.
The NCAA didn't create the death penalty until after Clemson's case. The Clemson violations were one of the reasons they created it.If the NCAA would have done what they should have back then, we could be discussing clemson and their demise from the death penalty also just like smu.
That's my thoughts on this topic. 😬
At least he was a head coach before SMU right?Interesting, because their coach is Sonny Dykes, the son of legendary coach Spike Dykes. So two coaches both sons of more well known coaches.
You have it backwards, all of SMU's wins were before the death penalty, when they were relevant. In recent years they haven't beaten a single Big 12 team except for TCU. Texas Tech has beaten them the last 15 times they have played. Baylor the last 13. SMU is o-fer the Big 12 in the last 20 years except for TCU. Most of us think the death penalty handed out to SMU was unfair, or at least disproportionate to what other equally guilty teams were hit with. But it killed their football program as far as being big time. SMU would be murdered in the Big 12.
Well, after SMU’s 42-34 win over TCU, you can now find a new SMU billboard on west-bound I-30 in Fort Worth…