They really do. Their data and the set overall are really second to none. One thing I have found interesting is that on the Sling trending shows it has been CNN, Fox then MSNBC for as long as we have had Sling TV. Since Tuesday it has been CNN, MSNBC and then Fox.
What Nevada must feel like right about now
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Trump did not start this fire. Tv media (until fox came around) has been the enemy of one party since I can remember. Clinton news network and communist news network date back to the 90's as insults.
Trump may have stepped up the veracity of calling them out, but they are not simply responding to him. They have been in the bag for one side for a long time.
They are far closer to propoganda than truth.
Here is an interesting article on what is going on and why they haven’t updated anything and why no one is calling the elections including Tillis.
Why is North Carolina taking so long to count votes?
Counting votes can be a bit slower in North Carolina - and that includes counting absentee and provisional ballots.
I've heard it about the last three presidents for sure. Dont remember the partisan attacks being as low brow before that.
There have been mistakes from all the national media, but NO ONE - I repeat, NO ONE - has put out as false an agenda as Fox News has, especially since Trump became President, and even before him during Obama, and with all their Tea Party nonsense with Beck. And over the past 4 years, there have been many times more egregiously false reporting from Fox than from all the other sources combined - and when those other sources are caught making mistakes, they generally corrected them and either gave disclaimers or apologies. Fox just double-downs on theirs. And they apparently do not seem to care at all.
Then you have a US President who lies multiple times every day, with one constant national news source parroting those lies insistently beside him, all the while calling out the other national media as being "fake news". It's one thing to report the news with a decidedly political partisan color to it - then all you need to do is watch multiple sites with varying political color, and you'll end up in the middle where you need to be. It's another thing totally altogether for a source to repeatedly report, post, and support completely false, debunked, and proven to be untrue "news" even after it's been debunked, with abandon.
You are reading a lot into what I posted that isn't there. I am well aware that states set how elections are held. What I was stating is my belief of how they should be held in order to provide the highest level of integrity.
I am not sure exactly how military/embassy personnel vote now. I guess each one has to vote according to the rules of their state of residency. Again, I stated a way to allow them to vote without having mail-in ballots.
You can disagree with my opinion if you want, but I believe the best way to ensure election integrity is to require in-person voting on Election Day with a photo ID.
I will ignore your smart ass comment about reading the Constitution.
MSNBC is every bit as bad as FOX. I watch both. MSNBC is especially bad about just not covering things at all. If the COVID cases surge in February or March of this coming year, I doubt they'll even cover it.
Well, he will be a sore loser no doubt. But, of course the left would be losing their minds if they lead in 3 states and magically 5 days later they were losing.Well. That's how it is and will be in close races. So we will have to deal with it despite your opinion.
Also it is obvious that the President craved this exact situation because he attacked the USPS.
Basically, he is a sore loser who wants to blame the refs before the game is even over.
You're on drugs or something. msnbc is by far the most bias , lying, distorting, taking out of context network ever.
Can you really not discern the amount of lying and disinformation from Trump compared to past presidents?
I will say that on election night I started watching ABC News because I like the people doing the coverage, but I saw people online talking about how good of a job King was doing on CNN. I found the technology and data to be awesome, but it was so misused. I liked the historical county comparisons, but they rarely mentioned when absentee ballots were to be counted, how votes were being received, and the amount of precincts reporting. It was like everybody was on cocaine, and it felt click-baity. They would zoom into a county as soon as votes starting coming in and start talking about the lead of one candidate before it even processed that it was like 2% reporting. I loved the capabilities of the technology, but it felt like they were hysterical.
I wouldn't take anything on Youtube too seriously either. Anyone can put snippets together to make someone look bad. If you did a search you could find plenty of videos that make Trump look just as bad. People who make videos like that have way too much free time on their hands to filter through footage to find every piece of footage to make such a video.
You're right. But Trump got more turnout than 2016. Sadly, I think there are many people that like his behavior.
so, if you live in one place, registered to vote in that place but are across country working, you shouldn't be allowed to vote? You do realize that if you're a resident of SC and you're working in say, Montana, you can't vote in Montana?
This is so misinformed.
The lies are coming from the MSM. It is very obvious for anyone who is paying attention. The FBI falsely surveilled Trump. The FBI falsified documents submitted to the FISA court. The head of the CIA under Obama took notes saying the Clinton campaign wanted to "stir up a scandal" in a meeting with Obama. These are facts, not opinions. Hunter Biden did work for both a Chinese and Ukrainian company and was vastly overpaid for it, especially since he wasn't qualified. It wasn't just coincidental that his dad was VP at the time. Common sense should prevail here, but the MSM censored the information. It doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together to figure out what has been going on here.
And many people didn't vote based on his behavior.
There are many of us who like his policies. We are adult enough to no worry so much about his behavior, but rather results. There are others who don't care about policies. They just want a President who will speak in platitudes and tuck them into bed at night. They will sell their country down the river just to be nurtured.
That ticket would be the end of United States as we know it. The country would be ruined in every way imaginable .
I am not anti Democrat but have zero respect of these two in particular. Sanders and AOC would be just as bad. We would be a sure fire socialist nation and never recover if this ticket ever won
Last thing in this from me. Imagine Biden leading in those key states on election night. And 5 days later Trump is leading in those states. Cnn and ms13nbc would be going insane. VOTER FRAUD, RUSSIAN HACKING!!!!!!!!
That is possible but this isn’t a “magical” swing to use your term from earlier. Trump spent all of his time trying to dissuade early voting while the Democrats encouraged voting period. As such almost everyone (except Trump and his supporters) knew things were going to heavily swing as all of these votes started being counted. That’s why even Fox on election night wouldn’t call states with the big leads which of course pissed off the people who refused to listen to what they were saying about the votes.
The only thing Trump has been right about in his ramblings about losing is voter suppression but it’s not based on the polls. If anything the polls would lead to higher vote totals. He is the one that sowed fear in people about voting prior to 11/3 and set himself for this but not understanding how the election process actually works.
You do realize multiple Republican led committees have investigated these things and came back disagreeing that any wrong doing occurred and some of the items addressed didn’t even happen. These things weren’t censored they just didn’t happen the way the “hyperbolic opinion hosts” on Fox wanted you to believe. There is a reason even on Fox all of those stories were only pitched in the 8-11 block.
Even if you think the Biden stuff is a big deal (which it certainly is bad perception if nothing else) then is it any different than Qatar investing in Kushner Companies, the Saudis spending tremendous amounts of money at Trump hotels, etc. I get that you’ve been conditioned to believe things only happen one way but that simply not true. Everyone who sets foot in Washington does so with their hands out and their eyes closed.
Trump also told us that mail-in ballots were an avenue for rampant fraud, which is completely true. The Democrats wanted mail-in balloting for this reason. In person voting is very much doable even in these days of COVID and everyone knows it. Regardless of how this election is decided, going forward, mail-in voting should be very limited to to very specific cases. I fear that our election process is forever tainted.
No, they were censored. Anything goes on Facebook or Twitter regarding Trump that is negative. No vetting needed. Same goes for MSNBC and CNN. Fox told the story on every single show. I watch Fox Business and in the afternoon. It was all over it every day as it should have been. CNN wouldn't mention it.
Don't talk to me about being conditioned. If you voted for Biden/Harris and believe the MSM, you are the one who is indoctrinated.
I known everyone talks about the fraud and gives “examples” but until there is actual evidence presented it is just a way to not acknowledge why the election was actually lost. We heard the same things in 2016 and a commission was formed to expose all of this fraud and today much like then it will be a lot about nothing.
What has Biden actually done in his life of politics that made you vote for him? Not what he said he would do. What has he done? Curious
If I watch any news it is typically Fox pre The 5 because from that point on it is just “opinions” so they don’t have to be factual. I tend to stick primarily with the shows Baier hosts and then outside of that it’s C-Span and AP reports where you can look up information yourself as opposed to having someone tell you what to think about it. As for Fox Business Lou Dobbs is every bit as bad as Hannity, Carlson or Maddow in terms of checking out of reality.
He doesn’t have any policies. He has talking points. When pressed on policy it is always “big, beautiful plans” but no specifics. The only policy they had was the desire to push through the permanent tax cuts for themselves and the deferred tax increases for everyone else.
Here's just one of his policies - federal funding for abortion. Even if you don't agree with it, its a policy.
The president last year barred federal family planning dollars from going to organizations that provide abortions or refer patients to abortion clinics. As a result, national reproductive healthcare provider Planned Parenthood lost millions in federal funds.
He's also reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy, which prevents any US government global health funds from going to foreign groups that also provide or inform about abortions.
The point was that you made the claim that only the pundits at night on Fox were reporting the Hunter Biden stuff. That is simply not true. Fox and Friends in the am, Maria Bartiromo, Dagan McDowell, Stuart Varney, Charles Paine, Neil Cavuto ,etc. They were all reporting in on their shows.
The nightly anchors are certainly pundits, just like those on CNN and MSNBC. I would point out however, Fox reported even the negative things regarding Trump. CNN and MSNBC chose not to cover the Hunter situation because it would have been hard to spin, even for them. Twitter and Facebook flat out censored it totally. That should scare folks, but there is a segment of the population that doesn't care as long as it is censored in their favor.
Federal funding grants were never allowed to be used for abortions. The legislation you are referring to simply said that to get these funds you have to have one office for counseling and one for abortions to qualify for the funding. So while Planned Parenthood opted out of those programs they actually received more federal funds through Medicare and Medicaid than ever before.
For all the talk about anti-abortion though how many laws were passed or even proposed by the Republican led House, Senate or White House?
You have to be kidding. He has plenty of policies, The vast majority are the exact opposite of Biden/Harris, which is EXACTLY why I voted for him.
I am not for tax increases for individuals, tax increases for corporations, getting back into the Paris Accord, the Green New Deal, NOT building a wall, NOT enforcing illegal immigration, healthcare for illegals, single-payer healthcare(don't kid yourself...that is what they want), reparations(supported by Harris), "free" college", forgiving student debt....the list goes on and on.
That was what I was trying to say. I was drafting my comments fast on my phone and it may have been misinterpreted.
You won't see any praise from me for the republican congress. And I wasn't looking to discuss abortion. I was simply saying that he has positions other than those involving tax issues. He's been attacked on immigration for 4 years because of his positions. I never said he got a lot passed.
To be clear, I'd be fine if we stay in eternal gridlock and new laws rarely get passed.
Any faux conservative can throw together a tax cut. Conservative administrations have been doing tax cuts for how long? 40 years? Further, I can pick a name off of a judge list from the Federalist society and I am not Conservative. At the end of the day, Donald Trump was a bombastic political figure that could be controlled on the policy front because he doesn’t know much in that area and has very little interest in it. That is why when some real political lifting needed to be done, like with healthcare, he couldn’t do it. That was my issue with the Republican Party in their last primary. You had about 20 candidates, yet the 13 year old that slams doors and has extended temper tantrums was chosen. Donald Trump is the political version of Archie Bunker who even the so-called MSM patronizes because they don’t want to make him too mad. That is why all these news outlets won’t go on and call the race even though it is obvious that Trump has lost. I guess they don’t want to have to deal with another frivolous lawsuit.
Trump couldn't do anything with healthcare because there is no clear answer to healthcare. I'm not even sure I can have an educated conversation on healthcare. I certainly won't claim to be an expert like many others. I will say that we focus entirely too much on providing insurance for everyone and entirely too little on the cost. Same with education. The more the government gets involved with either, the more expensive they both get.
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