With Belk Leaving...

[carolinamyke]

Thanks Johnny
Maybe now he will get it
Or not. Lol

 

[Doctor Obvious]

With all due respect, you seem to be in the minority on this.

"The Gamecocks have 17 commitments, and transfers Josh Belk and Jamel Cook also count against the limit of 25."
Read more here: https://www.thestate.com/sports/col...ecruiting/article222260830.html#storylink=cpy

"This team ranking does not include transfers Josh Belk or Jamel Cook, who both were top 100 prospects out of high school and used spots in the 2019 cycle."
https://247sports.com/college/south...is-inside-of-the-top-20-nationally-128791889/

"Belk’s “initial counter” scholarship counted towards the 2019 class, even though he enrolled and played in 2018."
https://southcarolina.forums.rivals.com/threads/gnt-the-curious-case-of-josh-belk.292506/

"The class is at the 25-man maximum because Southern Cal transfer Jamel Cook and Clemson transfer Josh Belk are counted in this class."
https://www.postandcourier.com/spor...cle_39396082-2a1d-11e9-9524-dbf9e3a3b30e.html

"South Carolina now has 17 commits for 23 spots (transfers Jamel Cook and Josh Belk count against the total of 25). "
Read more here: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article221211295.html#storylink=cpy

"We got better today, there's no doubt about that,” head coach Will Muschamp said, reminding that defensive lineman Josh Belk and defensive back Jamel Cook will count toward the 2019 class."
https://thetandd.com/sports/s_carol...cle_0d58e5cc-1c74-5b7f-9070-da8aad9d5386.html

My guess is that they are all getting the same bad information from the USC athletic department. Who knows why, but I would think the compliance office is more competent than to make that sort of mistake. There's no clause in bylaw 15.5.6.3.1 that says, "unless your name is Josh Belk or Jamel Cook and you enroll in the University of South Carolina."

 

[lowcountry_cock13]

I think making the statement that Boom doesn’t know how many recruits he can sign is ridiculous. He knows his numbers. There’s enough people that do this full time for a hundred million dollar athletic department, that know whether transfers counted toward the 25 or not. It’s like saying a cardiologist doesn’t know the different between an apple and an aorta.

 

[Doctor Obvious]

I think making the statement that Boom doesn’t know how many recruits he can sign is ridiculous. He knows his numbers. There’s enough people that do this full time for a hundred million dollar athletic department, that know whether transfers counted toward the 25 or not. It’s like saying a cardiologist doesn’t know the different between an apple and an aorta.

Just read these bylaws and it's clear. And no, there's not a secret set of rules that nullify these. You get 25 initial counters per academic year, transfers count the same way as new enrollees based on when they first receive aid. I was certain USC had gone over the 25 limit last August, then magically Shane Hynes did not enroll.

15.5.6.3 Initial Counters—Football (Also see Bylaw15.02.3.1).[FBS/FCS]

15.5.6.3.1 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering in Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete recruited (see Bylaw 15.02.9) by the awarding institution who enters in the fall term and receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) during the first academic year of residence shall be an initial counter for that year in football. Therefore, such aid shall not be awarded if the institution has reached its limit on the number of initial counters prior to the award of institutional financial aid to the student-athlete. (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

15.5.6.3.2 Recruited Student-Athlete Entering After Fall Term, Aided in First Year. [FBS/FCS] A student-athlete recruited (per Bylaw 15.02.9) by the awarding institution who enters after the first term of the academic year and immediately receives institutional financial aid (based in any degree on athletics ability) shall be an initial counter for either the current academic year (if the institution’s annual limit has not been reached) or the next academic year. The student-athlete shall be included in the institution’s total counter limit during the academic year in which the aid was first received. (Revised: 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

13.9.2.3 Limitation on Number of National Letter of Intent / Offer of Financial Aid Signings—Bowl SubdivisionFootball.[FBS] In bowl subdivision football, there shall be an annual limit of 25 on the number of prospective student-athletes who may sign a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid and student-athletes who may sign a financial aid agreement for the first time. [D] (Adopted: 1/16/10 effective 8/1/10, Revised: 1/14/12 effective 8/1/12, 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)

13.9.2.3.1 Application. [FBS] A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided in the fall term of an academic year shall count toward the annual limit on signings for that academic year. A prospective student-athlete who signs a National Letter of Intent or an institutional offer of financial aid or a student-athlete who signs a financial aid agreement that specifies financial aid will be initially provided during the second or third term of the academic year may count toward the limit for that academic year or the limit for the next academic year. (Adopted: 1/14/12 effective 8/1/12, Revised: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for signings that occur on or after 8/1/17)

13.9.2.3.2 Exception—Agreement After One Year. [FBS] A student-athlete who has been in residence at the certifying institution for at least one academic year may sign a financial aid agreement for the first time without counting toward the annual limit on signings. (Adopted: 4/26/17 effective 8/1/17 for sign- ings that occur on or after 8/1/17, Revised: 4/25/18 effective 8/1/18)