If that's your sole criteria for powerhouse, that's fine. But if that's the case, wouldn't the SEC contract be more lucrative than the B1G contract all those years? I think you'd find that most consider both conferences powerhouses.
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It’s all about the money. I’ve always said Colleges and education are no different. These are for profit businesses. students and athletes are secondary at best.
No…Because the Big Ten is in the Midwest, where there is a larger population. Lot more TVs! I don’t consider them a powerhouse in athletics, but that’s fine if you do. They don’t fair very well in Bowl games against the SEC…Either.
You asked me why they don’t make sense. That’s why! UNC and UVA bring in new Regions for more TV viewership.
I never said they didn't make sense. I said they may have other options that are more attractive for other non-athletic reasons. NCSU and VaTech also make sense....and they may not have the same options for reasons other than athletics.
YOU asked me to explain why Clemson and FSU don’t make sense…over UNC and UVA. That’s what I was explaining. If Clemson ends up twisting in wind, I don’t give a damn. They stabbed us in the back during our time in the ACC.
??? No I didn't. I agree with you on Clemson and FSU not making sense.
Think UNC and UVA and probably Duke will be lured by the research money of the BTAA. SEC would be an easy fit for NCSU and VaTech though....which would benefit both conferences.
Agree that the SEC adds little by adding FSU and Clemson. If the ACC is cannibalized UND will probably end up in the B1G...and they may anyway due to old rivalries. SEC should get one of the AZ schools also.
My apologies…Rouge. I should have known it was an individual, that is always defending the Taters on here. Clemson and FSU will just be robbing money from the Conference.
Did they pass over Texas for the benefit of Texas A&M? The Aggies have more clout in the SEC than we can even dream about.
Seriously, exclude Missouri and give me one other SEC school where you believe we have more clout.
One doesn't have to be a Tater to take pause at this statement, considering it could be said about South carolina too.
That’s not relevant! They are already Conference members. Why invite a team that doesn’t move the financial needle?
Does it get more illogical than this comment? We’re already in the Conference. We’re not the ones begging to get in.
Damn right. And imagine being ANY other kind of athlete in a sport that plays 3 or 4 games/meets/matches a week. I've never been more uninterested in college sports. I'll follow our guys but the whole thing is absurd.
How do you know they don’t move the financial needle? Because most of CFB does not agree.
Clemson is relevant to the SEC. Remember, football drives the money train. And Clemson has a national football brand these days. And I could see adding Miami. UNC? They would have their choice of either probably just because of the UNC brand nationally. But I see them aligning with the Big10 over the SEC. Some say NC State to get into NC for SEC. But it isn't 1990 where regional TV ruled the day. Every game worth seeing is on TV nationwide. Even a lot that aren't worth seeing. So there is no TV footprint that needs to be brought in the fold for extra exposure these days.
This is where I just acknowledge that you're just allowing emotions and rivalry to drive your thinking.
Have a happy fourth of july!
No, they turned to A&M because the SEC knew they wanted to get out from under the thumb of Texas and their undue control of the Big 12. They also knew that Texas considered itself the dominant force where they were and wasn't thinking about making a move. I don't really understand your point about clout as it relates to us. I wasn't asserting any clout.
I'm saying that, if the next level is 20 teams, they are by no means assured of a spot in the SEC at that point. If it happens, it will only be because certain other schools were unobtainable. If you see them in there, it will be because someone else went in another direction. They are not key to reaching what the objective really is.
You Hillbillies are completely devoid of logic. What the networks want are more TVs tuning into the SEC games. We will have the same number of TVs on, whether Clemson is in the Conference or not. What’s the benefit for the other Conference teams? You are the one emotional, because you fear being left behind.
Ah yes, anyone who disagrees is a tater.
That's a completely logical response.
And clemson being a top ten most viewed team (per poster above) obviously means no one would tune in to watch them. How could I ever think you were being overly emotional?
Alright, Lurker, which one are you?
Ha! I feel like the far left, but in reality I'm getting closer to the far right.
I know which one I want.Alright, Lurker, which one are you?
All the above is true and that is why I bet the Clemson and espn lawyers are deconstructing the GOR right now. Clemson will never sit by and let us get that big of a money difference over them. Clemson too the SEC within two years…bet on it.
I'm not sold that is all true. First, I think we can agree that football is king, and basketball is very secondary. (Just look at the acc deal now).
Putting aside rivalry glasses, I'm not sure I see UNC and UVA as pulling in a lot of eyes. I have seen some put forth that tv markets are no big deal with the advent of streaming, and that makes sense to me. And if you look at long term eyes on games, Clemson surpasses both of those teams.
I'm also not sold on the SEC money advantage. That has been talked about for about 30 years. Maybe with the differences between conferences increasing, it might be more of a factor.
It's THE driving factor right now because the opportunities for most schools aspiring to be in one of the Big Two conferences are going to close eventually.
I agree it's the motivating factor for wanting to jump onto the b10 or sec, I just don't see the huge advantage in the past 30 years that was supposed to be there.
The money difference was supposed to leave clemson in the dust 30 years ago. Granted, the gap between the two scenarios may be growing ever wider.
I don’t see UVA bringing as many eyes as Miami and Florida state and the data backs that up. It’s not about regions it’s about eyes coast to coast.
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