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Hi Stocker. When and where exactly did you find this quote? It doesn't seem to be recent. Certainly came from long before the latest job reports.
GJ, I found it interesting that no one mentioned my prior criticism of Biden re: inflation AND my criticism of Biden's poor planning re: the pull out from Afghanistan. I don't remember if that criticism was on this thread or another. But lo and behold give him any credit on anything, and his detractors want to jump on you. I suppose that's the nature of our politics today. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I have supported Republicans in the past and like some current ones now...... maybe not ones you or others like, but still.

I agree that some of the jobs created under his watch would have come back anyway. But, not all, this soon. I googled and found the following article: "Biden Sets First-Year Record With 6.6 Million Jobs Added". You will find a Zandi quote in that article.

PS: I had a prior hunch you had retired since I saw you post in the middle of the days.
 
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"It ($1.9 trillion pandemic relief package signed one year ago) was a big package. It was supporting demand. It supercharged the economy." -----Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics.

You can write to Zandi at Moody's and tell him he is fundamentally dishonest. If he takes back his assessment, I will be happy to retract. I will be fair about it, if he does. You can shoot at the messenger all you like. But, it does not change the message. Only Zandi can do that. Unless that happens, I won't respond further. Take care.
Doesn’t matter which Economist you quote. That’s just his Leftist opinion! They’re not new jobs. They existed before the Chinese Red Death shut down a booming Economy.
 
I personally spoke to a state legislator who was a sponsor for the new voting bill. He said there was widespread cheating in Georgia that has been uncovered and proven. That was the only way TWO radical left wing senators could have been elected in that mostly conservative state. The only lies are the by the people saying they are lies.
We are just going to keep beating our heads against the wall if real life consiquences arent administered when something like fraud is proven. Now I have no doubt fraud has been committed. Whether or not it was enough to change an election? Who knows? If they do, it never gets to the people. What frustrates me is why hasnt someone been charged with a crime or even held to account in fraud cases. Why are we having investigations in the first place if the perpetrator is just going to deny it and that's that with nothing done. Very frustrating.
 
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I personally spoke to a state legislator who was a sponsor for the new voting bill. He said there was widespread cheating in Georgia that has been uncovered and proven. That was the only way TWO radical left wing senators could have been elected in that mostly conservative state. The only lies are the by the people saying they are lies.
He will personally need to speak to Trump appointees Bill Barr and Chris Krebs about that since Barr and Krebs continue to say what they have said.
 
I personally spoke to a state legislator who was a sponsor for the new voting bill. He said there was widespread cheating in Georgia that has been uncovered and proven. That was the only way TWO radical left wing senators could have been elected in that mostly conservative state. The only lies are the by the people saying they are lies.

And then he personally showed you zero evidence because there is none. All that cheating - not a single shred of evidence. Not one person out of the thousands it would take to pull that off saying a word. That state legislator is pushing buttons because he knows it will work.
 
Here is the link, Jacque:


It's CNN, fwiw.

Some interesting quotes from it:

"Biden is helped by the fact that the economy is coming back from the heavy blow it took from the pandemic in 2020."

"Much of the gain under Biden is due to timing: He took office just as the vaccine became available and the economy was enjoying a natural recovery."

(And for those who love polls, from the article)

"CNN's poll of polls shows Biden with only a 42% approval rating of his jobs performance, with 55% disapproving — one of the worst first-year approval ratings of any president.

Biden's handling of the economy gets an even lower score, with an NBC poll showing 38% approval and 60% disapproval."

So even the article posted to support the stance that Biden created all those jobs echoes the statements made by his detractors in this thread. Probably why the link wasn't provided originally.
 
Costs for individual items have increased for me like anyone else- but I've off-set those so at the end of the week/month I have the same or more money in my account- anyone can call it whatever they like

Let's just way it's not impacting me as much because of adjustments.

My wife joined a farmers market food cooperative too which provides our vegetables and fruits at a fixed cost instead of having to buy them at the grocery store where prices have increased the most. It's made a nice impact.

Also started changing the oil in my vehicles myself. Been meaning to do that for a long time but decided I'd go ahead and start doing it. I have 4 vehicles so that's saving me about $40 an oil change. But that's not as bi a savings because we don't drive as much as we did outside of my 18 year old.

All anyone can do is what they can do. I haven't missed anything I've given up - especially cable tv. I thought I would. Of course they are calling me with all sorts of offers now and I don't think I'd go back if they paid me to take it. Well, maybe I would if they paid me.

Now, when the temps to start to get into the high 80s every day I am not going to be able to leave my HVAC off. So those costs will return a bit. I am thinking about replacing my 19 year old heat pump for a new, efficient one to save money in the long run. Because at 19 years old, the odds are it's going to go out on my 1 day before the hottest day of the summer.
Replacing your 19 year old heat pump with a new one is the worse thing you’ll ever do but, I’m sure you know better. Lol
 
None of the above was cancelled, lol. Carpet Knick is making millions, Nike and their sweatshops are being sold everywhere, the Dixie chicks were never Cancelled, lol, Target, I didn’t realized they were no longer around, etc etc etc

Mike Lindell commercials still appear on tv numerous times a day. He's spending millions going around the country lying about the election.

So he's not canceled either.

That the efforts to cancel the people I mentioned failed doesn't mean Conservatives didn't try hard to cancel them, fire them, etc.
 
Divisive rhetoric? Har! You leftists have two faces, and lie with both of them. Demagoguery, hatred, calls for violence, lies, ad hominem attacks....all of these are in the short table of contents of the leftist brain. A liberal that is a decent person with integrity is as rare as a 5 leaf clover. You are down to one leaf, rollerracist.

And refusal to accept election results? Leftist traitors' four year coup, daily sedition, and "resisting" were the longest temper tantrum we've ever seen.


Yes, I said divisive rhetoric.

Street protestors using divisive rhetoric is not the same thing as the President of the United States doing it.
 
I personally spoke to a state legislator who was a sponsor for the new voting bill. He said there was widespread cheating in Georgia that has been uncovered and proven. That was the only way TWO radical left wing senators could have been elected in that mostly conservative state. The only lies are the by the people saying they are lies.


I am sure there are right wingers in the state legislature in Georgia that really believe that. The problem is they can't prove it- haven't been able to prove it - and never will prove it because the math doesn't work.

Of course the idiocy of this belief is proven most by the fact that the ones that say stupid stuff like this never call into question their own election- even though they won on the same ballot- with the same voting rules and vote counting procedures as everyone else did.

You can find partisan legislators on both sides that believe all sorts of non-sense. Some are lying. They don't really believe it but tell everyone they do. Others- a smaller group - really believe it- but the problem is their "evidence" is so weak and unsupported that they can't even convince people that would love to believe them -but just can't when they see there really is no such evidence.

There are two Democratic Senators in Georgia because of one reason - Donald Trump.
 
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Mike Lindell commercials still appear on tv numerous times a day. He's spending millions going around the country lying about the election.

So he's not canceled either.

That the efforts to cancel the people I mentioned failed doesn't mean Conservatives didn't try hard to cancel them, fire them, etc.
Oh okay. Liberal ass department chains kicked him out over his political belief. If that isn’t cancelling well WTF is it?
 
I am sure there are right wingers in the state legislature in Georgia that really believe that. The problem is they can't prove it- haven't been able to prove it - and never will prove it because the math doesn't work.

Of course the idiocy of this belief is proven most by the fact that the ones that say stupid stuff like this never call into question their own election- even though they won on the same ballot- with the same voting rules and vote counting procedures as everyone else did.

You can find partisan legislators on both sides that believe all sorts of non-sense. Some are lying. They don't really believe it but tell everyone they do. Others- a smaller group - really believe it- but the problem is their "evidence" is so weak and unsupported that they can't even convince people that would love to believe them -but just can't when they see there really is no such evidence.

There are two Democratic Senators in Georgia because of one reason - Donald Trump.

Wrong. Biden bought Georgia with the promise of $2000 stimulus checks. Period. Should be in jail for that. Literally offered money for votes.

"If you send John and the Reverend to Washington, those $2,000 checks will go out the door, restoring hope and decency and honor for so many people who are struggling right now."
 
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Yes, I said divisive rhetoric.

Street protestors using divisive rhetoric is not the same thing as the President of the United States doing it.
Wrong, as usual. I know a dishonest argument when I see one, and coming from this board's foremost liar, I am not even a little surprised. It was the whole of the dim party, from the Speaker, to the head of the DNC, to all the party leaders, as well as the rank and file, which are mostly comprised of uncivilized lowlifes
 
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Wrong. Biden bought Georgia with the promise of $2000 stimulus checks. Period. Should be in jail for that. Literally offered money for votes.

"If you send John and the Reverend to Washington, those $2,000 checks will go out the door, restoring hope and decency and honor for so many people who are struggling right now."
Plus, the GOP voters didn't turn out as well in the runoff. I'll never understand that, and the country has suffered for it.
 
Would not shock me if Russian troops intentionally are sabotaging active nuclear power plants in the Ukraine, creating meltdowns. Then Putin would say it was "incompetent" soldiers that did it, making much of Ukraine uninhabitable. Hope I'm wrong.
 
Doesn’t matter which Economist you quote. That’s just his Leftist opinion! They’re not new jobs. They existed before the Chinese Red Death shut down a booming Economy.
Except I don't need any economist to tell me that adding nearly $2 TRILLION to the economy is a huge stimulus to the job market. I could say that the 5 economic courses, including labor economics, at USC, taught me that because I stayed awake in class. But it's really common sense. The stimulus also produced higher than normal inflation, which I previously was critical of saying it was not good.
 
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Except I don't need any economist to tell me that adding nearly $2 TRILLION to the economy is a huge stimulus to the job market. I could say that the 5 economic courses, including labor economics, at USC, taught me that because I stayed awake in class. But it's really common sense. The stimulus also produced higher than normal inflation, which I previously was critical of saying it was not good.
And just WHERE do you think this $2 trillion dollars is coming from, a TREE?? It is coming from ME, and tax pauyers like me. The entitlement bunch that refuses to work are the only people "Making out on this"
 
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And just WHERE do you think this $2 trillion dollars is coming from, a TREE?? It is coming from ME, and tax pauyers like me. The entitlement bunch that refuses to work are the only people "Making out on this"
If you are referring and complaining about debt and budget deficits piled up (in the past 5 years), you are preaching to the choir.
 
If you are referring and complaining about debt and budget deficits piled up (in the past 5 years), you are preaching to the choir.
I was talking HOWEVER about this Socialist Boondoggle now, that clown Biden is proposing, that even Some Democrats said they WOULD NEVER vote for. All i need from the MISERABLE govt, is secure borders and safety for me and My Family. I dont need FREE housing, FREE food, FREE healthcare, FREE Education, FREE MONEY, FREE Abortions, etc etc etc Me and My family will take care of those needs!!
 
I was talking HOWEVER about this Socialist Boondoggle now, that clown Biden is proposing, that even Some Democrats said they WOULD NEVER vote for. All i need from the MISERABLE govt, is secure borders and safety for me and My Family. I dont need FREE housing, FREE food, FREE healthcare, FREE Education, FREE MONEY, FREE Abortions, etc etc etc Me and My family will take care of those needs!!
I like to live within my means and want the govt to do the same, no deficit financing for tax cuts nor spending.
 
Oh okay. Liberal ass department chains kicked him out over his political belief. If that isn’t cancelling well WTF is it?

or they realized he was a toxic political creature whose brand was now seen as nothing but a right wing political organization and they didn't want the hassle of dealing with such a thing.


But he's not canceled. He still operating - ruining his business- but that's on him.
 
But then again, in your liberal socialist world, that is justified!! Okay I get it, he is busting ass on direct internet orders to his company, and you libs hate it!!! Ha ha ha


I don't hate it. I think Mike Lindell is a gift to any Democrat because he's so unhinged that even most elected Republicans think he's a fool and don't want anything to do with him.

Mike Lindell is currently fighting with Republicans in Idaho who think he's a mental case. Every time I see a news clip of him he's blasting Fox News. LOL.
 
or they realized he was a toxic political creature whose brand was now seen as nothing but a right wing political organization and they didn't want the hassle of dealing with such a thing.


But he's not canceled. He still operating - ruining his business- but that's on him.
MY POINT EXACTLY. He disagreed with THEIR politics.. SHUT HIM OUT IMMEDIATELY!!
 
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Wrong. Biden bought Georgia with the promise of $2000 stimulus checks. Period. Should be in jail for that. Literally offered money for votes.

"If you send John and the Reverend to Washington, those $2,000 checks will go out the door, restoring hope and decency and honor for so many people who are struggling right now."

Well, that's silly- and nonsensical. Even Republicans in Georgia haven't made that case.

NO elected political anywhere wants to live by that standard because it's illogical.
 
MY POINT EXACTLY. He disagreed with THEIR politics.. SHUT HIM OUT IMMEDIATELY!!

I don't think they cared about his politics- until he made it the center of his company and injected it into everything he was doing.

It was no secret that Lindell supported Trump and Republicans- and none of those companies cared. But then he made it the entire focus of everything he was doing- and was and is being sued by numerous companies for making unsupported allegations - then he became toxic to most companies- and they dumped in- which is their right.
 
But then again, you are OBVIOUSLY okay with Cancelling someone over their POLITICS, but hey, that is YOUR Right and you are (for now) allowed to have it.


I'm for companies making the decisions they feel is best for their company. That's what freedom is about.

The alternative is for the government to prevent companies from making decisions on who they associate with and I don't think that makes sense.

I don't make choices on products based on what the politics is of the owner or President of the company.
 
GJ, I found it interesting that no one mentioned my prior criticism of Biden re: inflation AND my criticism of Biden's poor planning re: the pull out from Afghanistan. I don't remember if that criticism was on this thread or another. But lo and behold give him any credit on anything, and his detractors want to jump on you. I suppose that's the nature of our politics today. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I have supported Republicans in the past and like some current ones now...... maybe not ones you or others like, but still.

I agree that some of the jobs created under his watch would have come back anyway. But, not all, this soon. I googled and found the following article: "Biden Sets First-Year Record With 6.6 Million Jobs Added". You will find a Zandi quote in that article.

PS: I had a prior hunch you had retired since I saw you post in the middle of the days.
I used to read and post during lunch. It became somewhat addictive. All I did was read Cockytalk, never posted. I was inspired to start posting reading King Ward and Silver Coconut. I wasn't criticizing you just asked about your quote because I couldn't find that exact one. I too criticize both sides as both sides have let down the PEOPLE they are supposed to SERVE.
 
Wrong, as usual. I know a dishonest argument when I see one, and coming from this board's foremost liar, I am not even a little surprised. It was the whole of the dim party, from the Speaker, to the head of the DNC, to all the party leaders, as well as the rank and file, which are mostly comprised of uncivilized lowlifes


You are wrong but that's not new. LOL
 
Plus, the GOP voters didn't turn out as well in the runoff. I'll never understand that, and the country has suffered for it.

The President and leader of your party told GOP voters the voting system was rigged in Georgia.

Democrats are thankful for that level of stupidity.

 
I am sure there are right wingers in the state legislature in Georgia that really believe that. The problem is they can't prove it- haven't been able to prove it - and never will prove it because the math doesn't work.

Of course the idiocy of this belief is proven most by the fact that the ones that say stupid stuff like this never call into question their own election- even though they won on the same ballot- with the same voting rules and vote counting procedures as everyone else did.

You can find partisan legislators on both sides that believe all sorts of non-sense. Some are lying. They don't really believe it but tell everyone they do. Others- a smaller group - really believe it- but the problem is their "evidence" is so weak and unsupported that they can't even convince people that would love to believe them -but just can't when they see there really is no such evidence.

There are two Democratic Senators in Georgia because of one reason - Donald Trump.
How do you define right-wingers today? The party lines looks much more blurred than they were even 10 years ago, much less 30. Democrats are now deeply entrenched with Wall Street, Big Tech and Corporate Media.

As Paleo mentioned in his breakdown of Presidents this century, Obama and Biden have been potentially the worst offenders of coddling the elite class. Claiming they "feed the poor" while cutting the value of the dollar in half within a decade to enrich themselves seems a bit disingenuous?
 
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How do you define right-wingers today? The party lines looks much more blurred than they were even 10 years ago, much less 30. Democrats are now deeply entrenched with Wall Street, Big Tech and Corporate Media.

As Paleo mentioned in his breakdown of Presidents this century, Obama and Biden have been potentially the worst offenders of coddling the elite class. Claiming they "feed the poor" while cutting the value of the dollar in half within a decade to enrich themselves seems a bit disingenuous?
OH HELL, you will be attacked for Bad Mouthing OBOZO and PEDO JOE.. 5...4...3..2..
 
How do you define right-wingers today? The party lines looks much more blurred than they were even 10 years ago, much less 30. Democrats are now deeply entrenched with Wall Street, Big Tech and Corporate Media.

As Paleo mentioned in his breakdown of Presidents this century, Obama and Biden have been potentially the worst offenders of coddling the elite class. Claiming they "feed the poor" while cutting the value of the dollar in half within a decade to enrich themselves seems a bit disingenuous?

I define it broadly sometimes and narrowly sometimes.

Clearly not all Republicans in Georgia think the election was rigged or believe Donald Trump. In fact, almost all of the Republican election officials even at the county level in Georgia don't think the election was rigged or fraudulent. The ones that do are extremists in my view- and they are the minority- but vocal.

Some party lines are blurred. No doubt.

Oh, I think Trump coddled elites too and Republicans and Democrats both do it all the time while proclaiming their fight for the regular guy. They are all neck deep in Wall Street- some of the worst offenders are the ones always screaming on cable news how much they hate "elites" and Wall Street.

Obama clearly did - one of the many reasons I never voted for him. I did vote for Biden though because of Trump. I would have voted for random guy on the street over Trump.
 
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I define it broadly sometimes and narrowly sometimes.

Clearly not all Republicans in Georgia think the election was rigged or believe Donald Trump. In fact, almost all of the Republican election officials even at the county level in Georgia don't think the election was rigged or fraudulent. The ones that do or extremists in my view- and they are the minority- but vocal.

Some party lines are blurred. No doubt.

Oh, I think Trump coddled elites too and Republicans and Democrats both do it all the time while proclaiming their fight for the regular guy. They are all neck deep in Wall Street- some of the worst offenders are the ones always screaming on cable news how much they hate "elites" and Wall Street.
I just don't see much difference in terms of the damage done to the middle/lower class. The money printing was a quiet, deadly form of inflation which never should have happened. "Put your money in this mutual fund earning 6-8% APR while we behind-the-scenes debase your currency at 15% ARP? And if you were in cash, then you got destroyed. When Obama kicked this off full blast, our country was also pulling in more tax revenue than ever before. We need better options in DC.
 
The President and leader of your party told GOP voters the voting system was rigged in Georgia.

Democrats are thankful for that level of stupidity.

I saw video of them closing down the polling stations, sending everyone home, pulling trunks out from under the table.
 
Another discussion point: You can learn almost anything on the internet now for free. YouTube and Reddit have everything you really need to learn any trade, regardless of your education level. Top Universities also offer courses for free in most every subject now. Elon Musk has stated something similar.

This begs the question: When do we cross the line between it being a resources issue versus a motivation issue? Almost all of America has access to the internet. If you failed out early in school and have comprehension issues, learn a trade like Tiling - for example. Pays well and you can work for someone until you can work for yourself. Construction jobs are endless.
 
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