Clowney >>>> Tebow. Who gives a damn about the Florida Gator that shredded us for 7 TD?
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I know this is just you being ignorant but I'll tell you what you can actually do. Acknowledging white privilege isn't about being less white. It's about recognizing how you or I or others, as white men, have been avoiding certain privileges in life, even when we were unaware of them, and how we can use those to help improve the lives of other marginalized groups.
I think it goes away whether he balls or busts.I think you have a point, but not necessarily right. There are still a lot of raw feelings over the Kaepernick issue. Guys, are still going to play because they want their check, but deep down they agree with what Kap did. So, unfortunately Tebow is in the cross-hairs of that. However, his name could be Joe Schmoe. Kap’s name is going to get brought anytime players feel a guy is getting an undeserved opportunity. Kap’s name gets brought up when marginal Black QBs like Josh Johnson get signed. So, some of this foreseeable if you are being honest about it. Not saying that it is fair. It’s just something that is going to happen. Tebow balls and it goes away. That’s what is really important.
I’ll tell you what you can do with that BS. Sit on it and rotate. I grew up working as a child. My parents had a list for chores to do as far back as I can remember including hard yard work. From eleven to sixteen I worked farm labor in SC heat in tobacco and all sorts of other things. I then worked at a restaurant until I went to the military. I served and when I got out I worked 50 to 60 hours a week and took on average 21 credits a semester and graduated with a BS degree and two Masters degrees and worked two careers in business and education. I was the first one in my family to go to college. I busted my butt all of my life for everything I got in life and served many along the way so you can take your woke theory with you on your long walk off of a short pier. Do us a favor and carry a couple buckets of chum with you on that wall.I know this is just you being ignorant but I'll tell you what you can actually do. Acknowledging white privilege isn't about being less white. It's about recognizing how you or I or others, as white men, have been avoiding certain privileges in life, even when we were unaware of them, and how we can use those to help improve the lives of other marginalized groups.
His biggest accomplishment thus far is narrowly avoiding “bust” status
Technically speaking, you are entirely wrong. Please don't toss around the First Amendment as a way to shut up private criticism of what somebody says. It applies to government restrictions on speech. ONLY. "Congress shall make no law . . . ." The Supreme Court, after the ratification of the 14th amendment after the Civil War, concluded that the due process clause "incorporated" most of the Bill of Rights amendments to make them apply to the States. But not to private actors.Technically speaking, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution affords us all that right.
Wow....very aggressive.I’ll tell you what you can do with that BS. Sit on it and rotate. I grew up working as a child. My parents had a list for chores to do as far back as I can remember including hard yard work. From eleven to sixteen I worked farm labor in SC heat in tobacco and all sorts of other things. I then worked at a restaurant until I went to the military. I served and when I got out I worked 50 to 60 hours a week and took on average 21 credits a semester and graduated with a BS degree and two Masters degrees and worked two careers in business and education. I was the first one in my family to go to college. I busted my butt all of my life for everything I got in life and served many along the way so you can take your woke theory with you on your long walk off of a short pier. Do us a favor and carry a couple buckets of chum with you on that wall.
The point is if Tim Tebow was green, black or purple he would still not deserve another shot at the NFL. I am a Jet fan, he was awful, could not catch a pass in practice and could barely handle a snap under center. So yes Dez Bryant may be able to evaluate a pass catcher better than folks on this board and J Clowney as a Gamecock should never be taking criticism in favor of an overrated system QB Gator!
He has been 2 time pro bowl, one time an alternate and if he gets 5 more sacks in his career he will be top 50 in the history of the NFLHis biggest accomplishment thus far is narrowly avoiding “bust” status
He has been 2 time pro bowl, one time an alternate and if he gets 5 more sacks in his career he will be top 50 in the history of the NFL
Personally, I think it is a ridiculous, childish issue that has been taken too far on both sides. I wouldn’t protest in that fashion, however, I don’t think a guy should lose his career over it either. I don’t think pledging allegiance to a song should be prerequisite for playing football. I understand that people may be upset over the gesture. However, there are other things like Felony DUI and Dog Fighting conspiracies and we seemed to get over that. I sort of blame the owner on this as their wealth should make them leaders and they turned into cowardly followers. Branch Rickey was threatened that people would boycott his games if he played Jackie Robinson too. He challenged that idle threat and it changed the country. Where the players are wrong is keeping this going when this ship of Kap playing has sailed. They should have sat a game or two when they had the chance. However, Kap coming back now is about as ridiculous as Tebow playing TE just because he is big and in shape.
Sure Khan the owner does, might also have something to do with why they are picking first or in the top 5 every year.All that aside, Jax has the right to sign whoever they want, correct?
Sure Khan the owner does, might also have something to do with why they are picking first or in the top 5 every year.
most #1 picks dontand has not come remotely close to living up to expectations.
Yep...Tebow is like an UDFA....just a guy getting a shot to make the team. My bet is he gets cut, but we may be surprised.Here's the deal: it's the NFL and if the man can't play he won't make a team. If he can help a team, that team will sign him. I think most people understand what's really at play here.
No one said they cant. But football fans can also be critical of what they do.All that aside, Jax has the right to sign whoever they want, correct?
No one said they cant. But football fans can also be critical of what they do.
People can criticize all they want. It's all the whining that it's unfair and unjust that's totally asinine.
Sure, but I believe such fans would be premature.No one said they cant. But football fans can also be critical of what they do.
They're premature also.So Clowney and Dez are just saying what many others are thinking. Don’t disregard the message. Won’t change what Jacksonville is going to do. But at least they got the balls to say it now.
He didn’t say that Clowney has any right to say who does or not get a job on another team- he said he has a right to his OPINION. Those are drastically different statements. We are all entitled to our own opinions (despite the current climate in America today where people feel they have to try to destroy anyone whose opinion differs from their own), and we all also have the right to completely ignore the opinions of others as the Jags will ignore the opinions of Bryant and Clowney.Why does he or any other player have a “right” to say who other teams should or should not sign?
This. He wasn’t signed at QB for a reason. Probably be last cut.It's a smart move. He'll be a great influence on Trevor Lawrence in addition to taking most of the preseason hype.
This post highlights you don't understand what white privilege is. It doesn't mean you don't work hard or haven't earned what you have. All it means is you don't have to/haven't had to worry about being inconvenienced in life due to the color of your skin.I’ll tell you what you can do with that BS. Sit on it and rotate. I grew up working as a child. My parents had a list for chores to do as far back as I can remember including hard yard work. From eleven to sixteen I worked farm labor in SC heat in tobacco and all sorts of other things. I then worked at a restaurant until I went to the military. I served and when I got out I worked 50 to 60 hours a week and took on average 21 credits a semester and graduated with a BS degree and two Masters degrees and worked two careers in business and education. I was the first one in my family to go to college. I busted my butt all of my life for everything I got in life and served many along the way so you can take your woke theory with you on your long walk off of a short pier. Do us a favor and carry a couple buckets of chum with you on that wall.
white fragility is somethingThis post highlights you don't understand what white privilege is. It doesn't mean you don't work hard or haven't earned what you have. All it means is you don't have to/haven't had to worry about being inconvenienced in life due to the color of your skin.
The part I find so funny is that you all assume every person had a easy or hard life because of their skin color when in reality you paint with a broad brush and no nothing of the individual ease or struggles any particular person had in life. It is just more Commie excuse making for people who have failed in life and another way to effectively divide people into different competing groups based on race, gender, wealth, etc...This post highlights you don't understand what white privilege is. It doesn't mean you don't work hard or haven't earned what you have. All it means is you don't have to/haven't had to worry about being inconvenienced in life due to the color of your skin.
This person also doesn't understand either.The part I find so funny is that you all assume every person had a easy or hard life because of their skin color when in reality you paint with a broad brush and no nothing of the individual ease or struggles any particular person had in life. It is just more Commie excuse making for people who have failed in life and another way to effectively divide people into different competing groups based on race, gender, wealth, etc...
I love it, “black Americans have a harder time to succeed - there are a ton of data that supports it”The part I find so funny is that you all assume every person had a easy or hard life because of their skin color when in reality you paint with a broad brush and no nothing of the individual ease or struggles any particular person had in life. It is just more Commie excuse making for people who have failed in life and another way to effectively divide people into different competing groups based on race, gender, wealth, etc...
So if you are WHITE AND GUILTY, then you are helping marginalized people. Wow. Thank you for accepting my NON GUILT. I have observed in my 76years that successful BLACK FRIENDS AND WHITE FRIENDS all made it on their own merits.😁I know this is just you being ignorant but I'll tell you what you can actually do. Acknowledging white privilege isn't about being less white. It's about recognizing how you or I or others, as white men, have been avoiding certain privileges in life, even when we were unaware of them, and how we can use those to help improve the lives of other marginalized groups.
Tell your black friends that they have never faced barriers because the color of their skinSo if you are WHITE AND GUILTY, then you are helping marginalized people. Wow. Thank you for accepting my NON GUILT. I have observed in my 76years that successful BLACK FRIENDS AND WHITE FRIENDS all made it on their own merits.😁
He also is a Jville native. Owner hopes to sell more seats with hometown player. Been done many times in all sports.Tebow did win the Heisman, right? So an NFL team giving him a chance to prove himself isn't all that outrageous.
In fact, there are all kinds of studies that indicate that a white male with a felony on his record has the same chance of receiving a call back for employment as a similarly situated black male with no criminal record. So, in essence, being black in America is akin to starting off with a felony on his record. This coming from a 54 year old black business owner that has two degrees from USC and has done pretty well. So, stating facts is not always race-baiting or bellyaching because you haven't done well.I love it, “black Americans have a harder time to succeed - there are a ton of data that supports it”
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I have been told to, and promoted black people with less qualifications over white people because HR would not approve the promotion because the numbers were needed. Anyone in management in the last 40+ years Will tell you that. Was that fair to the WHITE PERSON?Tell your black friends that they have never faced barriers because the color of their skin
Can you guess why you have been told to do that? I’ll answer it because studies have shown they are much likely (with same exact qualifications) to be passed over for promotions.I have been told to, and promoted black people with less qualifications over white people because HR would not approve the promotion because the numbers were needed. Anyone in management in the last 40+ years Will tell you that. Was that fair to the WHITE PERSON?
Federal jobs do this Social Engineering. The only reason. Would you promote a white person over a black person because of your subconscious Whiteness? If you would you are wrong. If you look at all God's people the same you don't have to worry about you subconscious. It's not hard. This isn't theory. It's called doing the right thing. Promoting to get a theoretical number set by someone in Washington D.C. is not doing the right thing to all people.Can you guess why you have been told to do that? I’ll answer it because studies have shown they are much likely (with same exact qualifications) to be passed over for promotions.
I know it’s hard to believe but subconsciously (or deliberately) the average white person is more likely to promote a white person than a black person (or hire, or rent a home, or a ton of other things )
these are hard truths but metastudies have shown it to be true
Why do you think studies show this isn’t the case then?Federal jobs do this Social Engineering. The only reason. Would you promote a white person over a black person because of your subconscious Whiteness? If you would you are wrong. If you look at all God's people the same you don't have to worry about you subconscious. It's not hard. This isn't theory. It's called doing the right thing. Promoting to get a theoretical number set by someone in Washington D.C. is not doing the right thing to all people.