Solution to football playoff?
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That's because my post was absolutely accurate and you keep proving it with each successive post. You idiots who think that a championship should be VOTED on are complete idiots who probably have never put on a set of shoulder pads in your miserable pathetic lives and don't have a clue what competition is all about. The players want a championship. They want to prove that they are the best and have beaten the beat. It is losers like you who protest a championship payoff. Nobody worth his salt wants to be VOTED the best. They want to BE the best. The only way to be the best is to beat the best. Crawl back into you loser hole and STF up.
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We have decades of proof of how easily duped imbeciles like you have allowed your intellectual betters to con you into going along with the destruction of college football. You're too dumb to understand that a BCS system allowed two teams to play for the MNC, not for a vote. If you're going to insult me, read all of my posts about these matters and do it right. I have not advocated for the old AP/UPI MNC vote system. That is one of the few things that needed to be changed about college football in the past 40 years, but it is still better than the shiny object that was held in front of chimps like you to lure y'all into the CFP and the litany of other disasters that have made college football worse.
All that other stuff you said is just you lashing out because you hate me disagreeing with you so passionately. But, you're worse than Stalin for what you've done to college football, so too bad. You'll still get to enjoy your fairly frequent Nebraska vs. Rutgers football games instead of Nebraska vs. Oklahoma. Now run along and plot how you and the other college football vagabonds can put an end to Army vs. Navy.
At least the DH is actually helping decide games/championships on the field of play. Unlike a bunch of people voting in a popularity contest. Which is the stupidest thing in the history of sports.
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I have seen some dumb takes on certain topics ok this board but this just may take the cake. I mean just wow. Cfp improved college football to say anything different is idiotic. At least plays in the NC is decided on the field vs in a board room. Move it to 8 or 12 and it will be even better. Less subjectivity.
But so did the old system where pitchers batted, and it was better. Sometimes the old ways are just better. I know, however, I'm in the minority on the DH and CFP. All I can do is just complain or pine away in a cave somewhere for the way things mostly used to be. I'm not going in a cave, though. I don't want to get bitten by a wayward Chinese bat and get cave covid.
Yes you did. Did you not post : "Although, I would still prefer the old pre-BCS voting style to what we have now."
Once again you prove what an idiotic loser you are, not to mention uninformed and stupid. Decades???? The CFP began in 2014. In case you are mathematically challenged in addition to being stupid, that is 8 years - not decades. It has not destroyed college football but made it more relevant and competitive. Ask any college football player what they aspire to. 100% will tell you that they want to WIN a NC. NONE will tell you they aspire to be voted a NC. The BCS was a joke. At least now no legitimate team can say they were left out unlike in 2005.
Army vs Navy???? Are you freaking serious???? BTW, in case you didn't realize it they still play that irrelevant game on TV every year for all service folks who may be interested. However it has no national relevance to college football and hasn't for, yes DECADES.
I'm not just referring to the CFP. I'm referring to the totality of bad decisions that have made college football worse over the past couple of decades. The CFP is somewhere on the totem pole of stupidity.
I'm mostly indifferent on the DH (which may put me in the minority). But I am most certainly NOT when it comes to how college football championships are decided.
One is decided on the field of play. The other is decided behind a desk. They are not the same.
Look, y'all will bumble your way into trying to ruin it, too. All of y'all that have contaminated college football over the years really haven't been doing it due to malice, at least for the most part. It's just incompetence.
Ok, then please explain how Army vs Navy is relevant to college football Mr. Competence. While you're at it please explain how voting for a NC is superior to actually deciding it on the field of competition.
I’m sorry you have that opinion. The majority does not agree with you and majority rules.
Army vs. Navy is relevant because it is one of the great traditions of college football. Traditions are a big part of what made college football the greatest sport in history. How anyone that likes college football doesn't understand the importance of Army vs. Navy is beyond me.
The majority is not always right. The majority gave us the Brandon administration.
It's because you don't understand what competition means. In addition to "tradition" why didn't you also mention "pageantry"? That's another meaningless term that has nothing to do with competition. Army/Navy was once a major factor in college football, but is no longer. Do you still own a horse and buggy? Times change and so has college football. Yearning for the days of Army/Navy and Harvard/Yale is nonsense. Most people in this country and probably 99.9% of the college football players want a championship and want to play for a championship. That is why we now have to CFP. It was a step in the right direction. Since its inception, no team that was a valid national championship contender has been left out of the chance to play for the title.
Interesting article in U.S. TODAY, today reveals it is likely that we will go to a 12-team playoff. Someone remarked that the SEC would probably then get 3-4 teams in per year. It talked about how strong the SEC is. It mentioned the TV money the SEC gets now (saying with Texas and Oklahoma, the SEC could generate $1.3 billion annually). It mentioned that the ACC distributed $32 million per school and is locked into its deal through 2036. Someone said with Texas and Oklahoma, the SEC is likely to be an "unparalleled" force. It's a great article to read, IF you are a SEC school fan.
That middle part is one reason why I think the acc will end up telling ND they must be in or out. There is a renegotiable clause to that contract. ND joining would likely allow the acc to force ESPN back to the negotiating table.
Yes, pageantry! That is another great thing about college football! I never want them to stop dotting the "I" at Ohio State. I never want the eagle to stop swooping before games at Jordan-Hare. When I'm 80 I still hope Smokey is leading the Vols through the T in Neyland. Why would you not want Ralphie leading Colorado onto the field? Are you hoping Oklahoma abandons the Sooner Schooner in this new, sterile college football world you are seeking? One that has no more charm or fun than a bank lobby? I never want Penn State to cancel the white out or FSU to go tomahawk chopless. What a shame if Florida's Two Bits cheer becomes a thing of the past. I want to hear Rocky Top 300 times a game!
What happened that siphoned the joy from your life? Come back to a better time when the Gator Bowl meant something and Ohio State wouldn't dream of wearing a black jersey! It's not too late.
Notre Dame would then probably go to the Big 10, who would welcome them with open arms. Am I wrong?
They've missed 2 golden opportunities to join before now. I think if they were to join any conference in football it would be the ACC. They are already loosely affiliated with them anyway and they could probably throw their weight around more there.
I have lots of joy in my life. You're the one who's bitter. We finally have a playoff that most REAL football fans longed for for years. Apparently you care more about frivolities than the game itself. When I go to a game I go to see the teams play and compete. I'm guessing when you go to a game you care as much about seeing the band as you do the game. It's about competition and winning. Next time you are pining away about "traditions" and "pageantry" just remember what the late great Vince Lombardi once said: "Winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing."
I actually enjoy the traditions in pageantry as much as anyone. But not at the expense of the games and championships themselves.
(I'm looking at YOU, Rose Bowl.)
Those things aren't the least be frivolous. Indeed, they are integral to college football, and without those aspects of the game, seemingly unique to a particular school, college football would have never become the greatest sport ever. You see them as ancillary, but they are not. You imply that I am not a real football fan, but I am a real college football fan. I value the totality of things that made the game great and can't understand why any civilized person would want to make it another NFL. Competition and winning are only a part of the game. You would have one team wearing a solid white uniform that says Team A, and another wearing a black uniform that says Team B, but I want a white helmet with a burnt orange Longhorn and that classic Nebraska helmet with the N.
And Lombardi was a fine coach for the NFL. My Cowboys are going to win his trophy in a few weeks. But the NFL and college football need to be separate.
I do feel your pain. Corporate interests have stripped out alot of character in the game and society as a whole. It has felt this way since the turn of the century. Prior to that point, each decade had it's own unique spirit.
The 2000s have mostly been a hodgepodge of nothingness coupled with greedy/manipulating corporate and government overreach. This is why so many of today's population can't wait to put a microwave on their head and live in an alternative world. (metaverse)
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This seems really short sighted to me. Time changes things always will and always has. Who cares what is on the side of the helmet. Some people like the change in uniform, I am one of them. We don’t have to be destined to wear the same thing forever. That doesn’t destroy college football. In my opinion tradition had and had very little to do with building college football.
The thing that sets college apart from the NFL is people have affiliation with their team. At least a large majority do or someone they know did. What I mean by that is, they personally are an alumni or their parents were. That is what sets college football apart from the NFL and always will. The tradition is great but traditions always come and go.
You are fooling your self if you thing college football is not about competition and winning. It’s why the game is played. They play to win and compete. No one watches to see their team lose, NO ONE. People watch to see a W and the more W’s you can obtain the larger your fan base grows. You seem like an old geezer that is set in his ways and all change is bad. The CFP has improved college football and very few would argue with that point. Human subjectivity needs to be taken out of the equation all together. Who plays and wins the CFP should be decided on the field not by human minds.
If the CFP committee had invented the wheel, they would have attempted to improve the design a few years later by altering the shape to have four equal straight sides with four right angles.
Who cares what is on the side of the helmet? Ask an Alabama fan if they would like an elephant on the side of their helmet. Ask a Penn State fan if the want a damn mountain lion on the side of their helmet. Who cares? It is that flippant approach that has allowed people that really don't love college football to make decisions that have are based purely on money. A uniform change for Oregon is fine. That's their thing. But a change from blue to dark blue at BYU several years ago should've had those Mormons raising hell....or for them, raising heck. The person that came up with the idea for Tennessee to wear those hideous grey uniforms...which they seem to wear for every big game these days....should be sentenced to live in a room with a starved Timber Wolf. You don't think tradition had much to do with building college football? That attitude is why Pitt and WVU no longer play each year. It's why Texas and Texas A&M haven't played in over 10 years.
And I didn't say competition and winning are not important. I said they are not the only part of the game of college football.
You tell me I seem like an old geezer that thinks all change is bad, but I posted in another thread over a week ago that "...change and new things aren't always bad, but it usually is in college football." I'm only 43. Not all change is bad, but this horrid CFP is a greater tragedy than the coronavirus and jsusc's failed midget romance.
And, sure, most would likely agree that the CFP has improved college football, but I can't help it if millions of fools are wandering around in a permanent stupor. I guess what I'm asking is, why are you trying to get rid of Mississippi State's cowbells and what have you done with Col. Rebel?
Indeed, the CFP has been very bad for college football. It has been very successful in doing what it was intended to do: crown the best team as the champion. However, it has overall been detrimental. I don’t understand why, but the advent of the CFP suddenly made folks feel like other bowl games were meaningless, which has led to all the opt outs, decreased attendance etc. Expanding it won’t help fix that.
Folks may have thought the BCS was arbitrary and unfair, but they competed like heck to get one of the top 2 spots. The CFP has taken away the desire to compete.
Maybe it’s because all the other games are meaningless. They are an exhibition game with nothing on the line. No one wants to watch that. Clearly the ratings show that. College football has always been driven by the fans and the fans are speaking. Get rid of all the other bowls and expand the playoff. That makes for a better post season than 50 million bowls where 2 6-6 teams are going at it.
The players are the ones wearing the jerseys if they want to change who cares. I don’t see those fans griping like you. Traditions come and go man get a hold of yourself. Go in a hole and watch reruns of old games from long ago. College football is not going back to that ridiculous where a group in a boardroom got to choose who played for the national championship. Neither is it going to some algorithms that decides that. Put the best 12 in a playoff and let the chips fall where they may. That is true competition and it’s decided on the field. That’s what TRUE college football fans want. A system free of human subjectivity where a team can win every single game and still get shafted because someone THINKS they are unworthy. Anyone can beat anyone on any given Saturday. If you earn it you should get the chance to put your chips all in.
Generally speaking, most fans did not view bowl games as meaningless prior to the advent of the playoffs. In the BCS system, when only 2 teams had a shot at the time, bowls were still considered an achievement by most and were met with excitement by players.
Explain to me how expanding the field from 2 in the BCS to 4 in the CFP has robbed the Outback Bowl of its meaning.
Look at the views man. College football is driven by money. No it hasn’t always been that way but it’s sure as heck is not going backwards. No one cares about meaningless bowls unless your team is in it. Not to mention most of the matchups are garbage. Opt outs are not changing as they shouldn’t. Call me crazy but I can’t justify a player who might get drafted getting hurt in a bowl that means nothing. It’s like an exhibition fight. This is these kids lively hood. I guess they should stay and play and put their careers on the line to make those happy that don’t agree with them. People are just upset that the players have power now. I say good for them and it’s about dang time.
Your also fooling yourself to say all bowls have always mattered. That’s not true, during the bcs if was the major ones, fiesta, gator, rose etc. No one cared about the lessor bowls. Also to an earlier point look at the ratings of army vs navy over the last 2 decades. It hasn’t been relevant in 30 years
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