Really? Everyone in SC was a Democrat until the late 1960s, early 70s. Look at us now.
We didn't leave the democrats, they left us...
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Really? Everyone in SC was a Democrat until the late 1960s, early 70s. Look at us now.
Semantics.We didn't leave the democrats, they left us...
Who you calling a semantic? They never hurt anyoneSemantics.
Semantics.
Lol.Who you calling a semantic? They never hurt anyone
Clyburn? Yes, I know on a state and local level there isn't much to distinguish them....except with some of the new generation of legislators.You do know that democrats and republicans are one and the same in the state house?
You do know that democrats and republicans are one and the same in the state house?
That is the case across the scope of politics about the important issues. Well until recently
The rules say "should" stand at attention, not "must" or "are required." Any first year law student could win that one in court. Words have meaning....use the ones to convey what you really want or mean.
Yassah, Massah Cocky4. We just got to learn our place. Just like in dem ol days. We's a gotta pass that on to the chilluns, too. We shan't be scared o' the po-lice. They jus there to help us out. Ain't dat right? Nevamind dem killin's. Dose was all people dat done wrong and shulda been kilt. Longas youse done nuttin wrong, jus let yoself be arrested. It'll all come out right in da court.
You should walk a mile in the shoes of a black person in America before you post stuff like that. You really don't have any idea.
And no, it's not about saving lives. It's about equal protection under the law - the 14th Amendment.
It might help the protesters if they were trying to accomplish something tangible and measurable.
Yup. The president of the U.S. called the mothers of men who are protesting what they see as injustice in this country "bitches," but there are some Nazis and other white supremacists who are "very fine people." You want to dick around with your cell phone, tell your friend a joke or go get a beer during the anthem, no problem. It's been happening for decades. Nobody seemed to give a damn. You want to be one of "those people," a mouthy black person who is trying to stand up for something else they believe in, then your mother is a bitch, and you are her son. Good stuff.
No. The rule says players SHOULD stand, hold their helmets at their side and refrain from talking during the National Anthem. This essentially is a guideline, not a rule. That has nothing to do with punishment. With that wording, the NFL would be hard pressed to enforce any punishment against a player for not standing.Look I will help you out here. My understanding was all you said was NFL has no rules, but they do in their Game Operation Manual. Maybe you meant differently or I misunderstood. Im not here for a tit for tat.
Your correct the wording has "should" and "may" with regards to punishments. The NFL has choose to use them as why there has not been punishments. That is the chose they have made (which I think is the wrong chose but mainly because NFL is business this has/will hurt there business.)
Also the BIG difference in NFL to NBA is the NBA has it in there player agreement that they will stand for the anthem....see Chris Jackson/Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.
typo, autocorrect or lack of learning?Look I will help you out here. My understanding was all you said was NFL has no rules, but they do in their Game Operation Manual. Maybe you meant differently or I misunderstood. Im not here for a tit for tat.
Your (sic) correct the wording has "should" and "may" with regards to punishments. The NFL has choose (sic) to use them as why there has (sic) not been punishments. That is the chose (sic) they have made (which I think is the wrong chose but mainly because NFL is business this has/will hurt there (sic) business.)
Also the BIG difference in NFL to NBA is the NBA has it in there (sic) player agreement that they will stand for the anthem....see Chris Jackson/Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf.
typo, autocorrect or lack of learning?
If nfl were to die, you can kiss college football goodbye
please accept my sincere apology for my reply to your postNo but 52 years of major learning disability view & auto processing. But thanks for your concern.
It's funny that you assume I only listen to MSM and Twitter. That's typical put-down, message board rhetoric. I am perfectly capable of finding statistics on the government's own website and that's where I get these figures.
You're correct in your assessment that unwarranted shootings are not the most concerning issue for minorities in America. I don't think I said that was the most important issue. The police killing unarmed black men is what gets the headlines, though, and it's the tip of the iceberg if people wanted to start delving in.
Like I said earlier, though, the issue would have gone away if it weren't for a POTUS that feels like he has to shame and bully people in speeches and online. The part in bold expresses how I truly feel about the issue. If POTUS would focus on the guys who stood with one hand over their heart and one hand on their buddy who was kneeling, it could bring people together rather than further the divide. But people who shame and bully rarely are about unity. Rather, they only want more for themselves.
Hands up dont shootFunny how officers misread the intentions of black people so frequently.
Was reading today of a local youth soccer league where parents and fans are no longer allowed to yell at players, refs and coaches. They are calling this month 'Silent September' or something like that. Applauding is permitted. This is where we are headed.Where have you been the last 20 yrs? Don't you know soccer is taking over and will be king soon. Lol
Was reading today of a local youth soccer league where parents and fans are no longer allowed to yell at players, refs and coaches. They are calling this month 'Silent September' or something like that. Applauding is permitted. This is where we are headed.
I'm ultra conservative but honestly , which approach is worse in that scenario?20 years ago, the Denver Nuggets point guard (formerly Chris Jackson) wouldn't stand for the anthem because of his Muslim beliefs. That essentially ended his pro career. Boy how times have changed. Today he would win an ESPY for courage. Liberal culture rotting America.
Nope. There isn't any rule against it. The owners would lose that one.Their boss
The image was striking — several owners of NFL teams locking arms with their players on the sidelines Sunday in a dramatic statement of defiance to a president who ridiculed their sport and condemned players for refusing to stand during the national anthem as a protest against racism.
And then on Monday night, the league’s most prominent owner knelt with his entire team.
These are the same owners who allowed junk science produced by league-sponsored doctors to paper over the growing scientific consensus that repeated head hits are linked to long-term brain damage. They have warred repeatedly, aggressively and publicly with players over labor issues.
And as for Colin Kaepernick, the quarterback who inspired the anthem protests by kneeling in order to raise awareness about racial oppression and police brutality toward African-Americans, no owner has deemed him worthy of job, despite widespread handicapping that, while not in his prime, he certainly still is of a caliber to play.
That's not how free speech works. It's free speech when the bleeding-hearts speak their minds. It's oppression when any one else does. Don't you read the papers?The players have said what they wanted....now they are going to have to hear the response. It goes both ways you know.
Could I get a link to that video
I saw that. They didn't kneel during the national anthem. They knelt for maybe 3 seconds before the national anthem and then they all stood and held arms for the entire national anthem. So what's wrong with that? They stood during the song. Isn't that what you want or are you never satisfied?
I saw that. They didn't kneel during the national anthem. They knelt for maybe 3 seconds before the national anthem and then they all stood and held arms for the entire national anthem. So what's wrong with that? They stood during the song. Isn't that what you want or are you never satisfied?
Honestly the bottom line is this proud country is more divided than it has ever been . Do you guys really think police brutality against minority's is something new ?? It's been going on for decades... it's just now everybody has cellphones and camera's and it's being documented . We have freaking NAZIS openly walking down our streets . I don't care who is in the White House .... this is just wrong . I have an interracial niece and nephew and honestly I worry about them with all the hatred and ignorance that I see right now . I'm the least political person in the world but I would put a bullet in anybody's head that threatened them . I applaud athletes who are using their positions to try to effect social change , because I damn sure don't see these idiots in Washington lifting a finger . Lebron James took a lot of heat for his twitter war with the a President . Lebron had spent over 40 million dollars to help improve his community and establish schools and scholarship funds . He's done a hell of a lot more for people then any scumbag politician. The reason these guys are doing this is because we have a problem in America and if this is what needs to be done to get people talking about the issue then so be it . One of my best friends is Active Duty Air Force and a Minority. He's done two tours in Afghanistan, lost friends , been shot at , away from his family for months at a time . I asked him how he feels about the protests. His response was perfect " We do what we do and sacrifice all we sacrifice so people have the right to disagree without fear or repercussions ". He said most of the troops under his command feel the same way . We all can agree on 1 thing .. Things are @$&cked up right now and we all gotta work together to make it whole again .
Jerry Jones got it right. Kneel in unity before the national anthem. Stand up during the national anthem. Finally someone with some sense
Actually, they looked like they are praying before National Anthem...
Something that you do by kneeling to God and pray for forgiveness....
Vehemently disagree with your first statement. The 1860s were very divided obviously. And read about the summer of 1968....probably the most divided our country has been since the 1860s. This is minor in comparison.Honestly the bottom line is this proud country is more divided than it has ever been . Do you guys really think police brutality against minority's is something new ?? It's been going on for decades... it's just now everybody has cellphones and camera's and it's being documented . We have freaking NAZIS openly walking down our streets . I don't care who is in the White House .... this is just wrong . I have an interracial niece and nephew and honestly I worry about them with all the hatred and ignorance that I see right now . I'm the least political person in the world but I would put a bullet in anybody's head that threatened them . I applaud athletes who are using their positions to try to effect social change , because I damn sure don't see these idiots in Washington lifting a finger . Lebron James took a lot of heat for his twitter war with the a President . Lebron had spent over 40 million dollars to help improve his community and establish schools and scholarship funds . He's done a hell of a lot more for people then any scumbag politician. The reason these guys are doing this is because we have a problem in America and if this is what needs to be done to get people talking about the issue then so be it . One of my best friends is Active Duty Air Force and a Minority. He's done two tours in Afghanistan, lost friends , been shot at , away from his family for months at a time . I asked him how he feels about the protests. His response was perfect " We do what we do and sacrifice all we sacrifice so people have the right to disagree without fear or repercussions ". He said most of the troops under his command feel the same way . We all can agree on 1 thing .. Things are @$&cked up right now and we all gotta work together to make it whole again .
Honestly the bottom line is this proud country is more divided than it has ever been . Do you guys really think police brutality against minority's is something new ?? It's been going on for decades... it's just now everybody has cellphones and camera's and it's being documented . We have freaking NAZIS openly walking down our streets . I don't care who is in the White House .... this is just wrong . I have an interracial niece and nephew and honestly I worry about them with all the hatred and ignorance that I see right now . I'm the least political person in the world but I would put a bullet in anybody's head that threatened them . I applaud athletes who are using their positions to try to effect social change , because I damn sure don't see these idiots in Washington lifting a finger . Lebron James took a lot of heat for his twitter war with the a President . Lebron had spent over 40 million dollars to help improve his community and establish schools and scholarship funds . He's done a hell of a lot more for people then any scumbag politician. The reason these guys are doing this is because we have a problem in America and if this is what needs to be done to get people talking about the issue then so be it . One of my best friends is Active Duty Air Force and a Minority. He's done two tours in Afghanistan, lost friends , been shot at , away from his family for months at a time . I asked him how he feels about the protests. His response was perfect " We do what we do and sacrifice all we sacrifice so people have the right to disagree without fear or repercussions ". He said most of the troops under his command feel the same way . We all can agree on 1 thing .. Things are @$&cked up right now and we all gotta work together to make it whole again .
Sad! This fellow, or gal, or gender confused moron, wants to threaten others with a vicious keyboard attack. Pathetic, really. That's all.This thread is why I hate republicans and conservatives. If any of them said half of this stuff around me they'd be going to the hospital. That's why I don't go around them because I would be sure to embarrass them in front of their friends and family by grinding them into the floor.
Yep. And white people make up about 70% of our population - not 13%. Some simple statistics will tell you that the percentages are skewed.Police kill twice as many white people every year than they do black people.