Not a big fan of the hire but willing to give him an opportunity. If he hires a very good OC than they have a shot. Whether he is good or not is yet TBD. Cant knock his experience under some really good HC's and his abilities to coach D and recruit are undeniable. If he inherited a mess at Fla, what would you call what he's inheriting here? Going to be tougher here. Oh and pretty hard to title your thread as "trying to understand" when you argue everyones point rather than discuss.
Trying the understand the problem some of you have with Muschamp...
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Tougher here? I think that depends on the staff he hires and his relationship with RT going forward. The OC will be critical, as will the recruiting aspect, so he will have to hire recruiting as well as coaching ability. But I do think his "on the job" training at Florida may be a big benefit, where many see it as a big drawback. As far as the thread, I am responding reasonably to what I think are reasonable posters. But don't care what a Florida fan thinks, and don't care what classic "Haters" think either.
Sad but true. Thanks for the input, G8r. 85 has been warned. I'll be looking for him soon when he's bitching about how poor of a coach Muschamp is like he has done so many times over the years with other coaches. Can't say you weren't warned, 85. Ignorance will not be an excuse for contradicting yourself with this hire.Not a problem, and would feel the same were I in your shoes. And FWIW, you and thousands of Gator fans share in the joy of USC hiring Will Muschamp as head football coach.
Yes, I am on board with the hire, as I said before, because I trust RT to make the best decision, and this was the decision he made. And anyone that says he's a poor hire "soon" will be showing their own ignorance, as it will probably take 2-3 years before we know whether the hire was good or not.
How convenient. So we've got to wait 3 years to assess whether a previous failure at HC is once again failing at his job. I can only imagine the size of the hole that will be dug.
A year 4 HC with a 4yr QB should not have lost that game. The game plan looked like we were trying to be as vanilla as we could so we didn’t show our hand for later. Right now we aren’t good enough for that. Just like Florida last year, he repeated his mistake of sitting on the ball before the half. The punt inside the UNC 40 (4th and 3 maybe), is simply inexcusable. I feel like he is repeating his mistakes, and the team certainly doesn’t look any better now than they did.
And for what it is worth, I was on the give him time bandwagon until now.
And for what it is worth, I was on the give him time bandwagon until now.
Make a long story short He I not worth a dam. And neither is his QB.
LOL. No, I'm happily retired. It will get better, but it will likely take a couple of years. Good luck.
Ray is in a job that's way over his head. He's not an AD. Never has been.
There isn't any excuses Muschamp can hide behind any more. It's not his hires it's him. You know people say some guys are QB whisperers? We'll Muschamp is the exact opposite of that. He meddles in the offense QBs just play worse then they are and the offense just keeps on sucking. Hell I am blaming that last throw that would have won the game on Muschamp not Hilinski. He just makes QBs worse by being the coach of them. It's just a proven fact at this point.
@robertfootball for AD. He is our prophet.
Wonder where we might be today if we had offered and landed Lincoln Riley.
Dude, his defense has sucked since he’s been here. He’s an average to below average recruiter, and where does everyone get this idea that he won’t be “out-worked?” How do you know he’s a hard worker except for the fact that he says he is? Even his star QB Bentley said after they were dismantled by Clemson that they would never again be “out worked.” How did that end up? Muschamp just loves throwing out the word “work” therefore people get the impression he’s a hard worker. After every game he says the players can’t wait to get back to work. It’s just a term he uses that has no meaning to him. He’s probably a bum.
May want to look at the date of the post....hindsight is always 20/20,
Frank Martin = Mr. Mediocre! The man loses on purpose....more than once!
Some of ya’ll beed to realize this was a zombie thread from when Muschamp was hired and stop replying to posts made by people who haven’t been on this board in 3+ years! LOL
I haven’t read all the posts, but I will reply to the op. I don’t have any problem at all with Muschamp as a man. He seems knowledgeable about the game, works hard, and ran a clean program. I wish him all the best in his future endeavors. He simply was not and is not a head football coach. Cutting him loose was a year too late.
You are replying to a thread from when he was HIRED! Check the OP date, 2015... Some numbskull resurrected it because a link was posted in another thread recently and nobody is checking the dates on when this thing was started. SMH
NP- not yelling at you dude, just a PSA! This is a zombie thread everyone!! Carry on!!
And it appears we are about to do the same thing. Insanity.
I was trying to be positive. This attitude didn't last long. Ha Ha
What a response. He said a coach who lost at UF does not have much chance of winning at USC. And you turn that into “your criteria is a coach that never lost?” Comprehension issues?
That's easy. Losing record and losing miserably 3 straight years with a decline in talent. Loading up on 2 and 3 start prospects at key positions. QB recruiting has been his only bright spot RV as well. Muschamp is a below avg evaluator of talent and that's crushing when you're going after 3 star guys. He has left us years behind at the reciever position. Muschamp is following his same history he had at UFO and that wont change. Hes only capable of pulling one big win a year. He also will never challenge clemmons at all. Out team is a laughing stock. This is my prob with muschamp. Other that hes great.
