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Greatest Orator? Are you kidding? He could not answer a question on the spot if his life depended on it....He needed a teleprompter to get his thoughts to flow smoothly...

Michelle was even worse...for her to be Harvard educated...she could not complete sentences without saying, um, u know, in every sentence...check out her interview with Mike Huckabee...

Orator, he was not...Trump beats him hands down...he can think on the spot...

Think? Ah no. Remember what happened when his teleprompter stopped working in the middle of a speech? He started talking complete gibberish about Americans taking over the airports during the Revoluntionary War. He talked about injecting humans with disinfectant and about how nobody knew health care was so complicated. You're confusing thinking on his feet with straight out lying. Agree 100% with that. For example in the last 48 hrs he hit the trifecta with a single subject. (Eg) Mattis picked up the nicknane Mad Dog over 15 yrs ago. Do any of you cultist ever ponder for even 2 seconds why Trump would lie about something like this? It's just insane & shows something is seriously wrong here.


WASHINGTON (AP) — When Jim Mattis announced his resignation as defense secretary, President Donald Trump thanked him for “tremendous progress” in helping to rebuild the military and for “retiring with distinction.” Times changed and so did Trump's story about losing his Pentagon chief.

Trump now claims he fired Mattis, says President Barack Obama did the same and takes credit for nicknaming him Mad Dog Mattis. None of that is true.

After leaving the administration, Mattis let it be known that he was biting his lip about Trump's leadership. He only hinted at his concerns — even in a recent book — until his statement this week opening up on “the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people — does not even pretend to try.”
 
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Trump did the ONLY thing that mattered as a President. He DELIVERED on promises he made to his supporters. Fought hard for his supporters unlike the trash politicians before him. That’s the only thing that matters to me as a voter. One things for sure. There will never be another President that will ever make good on as many promises while fighting terrorists trying to overthrow him and the country at every turn. God bless President Trump.
 
Trump did the ONLY thing that mattered as a President. He DELIVERED on promises he made to his supporters. Fought hard for his supporters unlike the trash politicians before him. That’s the only thing that matters to me as a voter. One things for sure. There will never be another President that will ever make good on as many promises while fighting terrorists trying to overthrow him and the country at every turn. God bless President Trump.
Yep Mexico is paying for the wall, he balanced the budget, and everybody loves his promised great health plan that was going to cover everybody at much, much lower premiums.
Coal is back and nobody gets shot in Chicago anymore. 4,5, even 6% GDP nope, not even close.
 
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My taxes are much lower, I have my doctor, my insurance or lack there of is MY choice, borders are secured and most of all the socialism takeover has been fought back instead of being completed by Hillary. Trump has single-handedly saved the USA because he’s had zero help. It’s Truly amazing.
 
My taxes are much lower, I have my doctor, my insurance or lack there of is MY choice, borders are secured and most of all the socialism takeover has been fought back instead of being completed by Hillary. Trump has single-handedly saved the USA because he’s had zero help. It’s Truly amazing.
Are you the one guy in America covered by Trumps big beautiful health plan? How do I enroll, it sounds fantastic. No help, didn't his party have the House, Senate & Presidency his first 2 years in office? Still have 2 of 3, how do you figure he's had no help?
 
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Obviously You weren’t paying attention. The Republicans were not on his side either. He was alone. Washington is corrupt with both Democrats and Republicans. Some Republicans slowly started to come around but draining the swamp takes a minute. Lol. As far as my insurance I’m retired and self insured. My choice. That choice wouldn’t be mine without Trump. I prefer a free country but that’s just me. I realize a lot of people like the thought of government telling them what, when and how to live their life from cradle to grave. I’m not one of those people.
 
Obviously You weren’t paying attention. The Republicans were not on his side either. He was alone. Washington is corrupt with both Democrats and Republicans. Some Republicans slowly started to come around but draining the swamp takes a minute. Lol. As far as my insurance I’m retired and self insured. My choice. That choice wouldn’t be mine without Trump. I prefer a free country but that’s just me. I realize a lot of people like the thought of government telling them what, when and how to live their life from cradle to grave. I’m not one of those people.
Yes everyone's corrupt but Trump. The same guy who duped his fellow citizens with a fake university & then had to return $25,000,000 to those same citizens. The same guy who's foundation was ordered shutdown because he & his family were using it as their personal piggy bank. But yeah, everyone else is corrupt.
What you do with your insurance is up to you but you said Trump delivered on his campaign promises. One of those central ones was a big beautiful health plan that was going to cover everybody at much, much lower premiums. Problem is, such a plan never existed. It was a blatant lie, he had nothing. As soon as he was elected he told the republicans to come up with something, that something went nowhere. Any idea why he's diverting money from the defense department to pay for the wall when the one big theme of his whole campaign was a border wall that wouldn't cost the American taxpayer anything? Pretty apparent that he hasn't delivered on many things he promised unless you're so indoctrinated into the cult that your reality is what trump tells you it is.
 
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Trump gets it done by whatever means necessary. That why he’s the best we’ve had in a very very long time. He doesn’t care who he pisses off and that’s why all the brainwashed stepford liberals hate him. They spent all their money (or went in debt for a worthless college education) trying to be elitist (that’s what they were told to do) just to find out they’ve been sold a bill of goods. Its sad but hilarious at the same time. Watching Trump manipulate these simple minded clowns with such precision is a truly amazing thing to behold. Maybe by 2024 you’ll finally understand what’s really been going on in your country for the last 60 years.
 
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Greatest Orator? Are you kidding? He could not answer a question on the spot if his life depended on it....He needed a teleprompter to get his thoughts to flow smoothly...

Michelle was even worse...for her to be Harvard educated...she could not complete sentences without saying, um, u know, in every sentence...check out her interview with Mike Huckabee...

Orator, he was not...Trump beats him hands down...he can think on the spot...
This has got to be a joke. Trump? A better orator than Obama? You are letting your personal beliefs and bias (and I suspect racism) override common sense. Perhaps you do not know the definition of the word “orator”- “a public speaker, especially one who is eloquent or skilled.” PUBLIC SPEAKING= Prepared remarks. Delivering a speech... Not some pithy hateful attack on someone he doesn’t like, not stammering race baiting remarks to journalists who dare ask him hard questions.. Donald Trump cannot stay on topic for 2 minutes at half his speeches and when he goes off script he tends to spiral into attacks on women, attacks ob minorities (remember all the “fun” comments he made about Mexicans during his campaign?) attacks on handicapped people, or just non-sense babbling/talking in circles and repeating the same things over an over in an incoherent rambling mess. This is the most embarrassing human to ever take any stage representing the US. Obama was a smooth talking, intelligent, thoughtful well spoken and even at times entertaining person to listen to when he was giving a soeech. Like every oerson alive he tends to interject “ummm” and “uhh” into his sentences when answering a question as we say that when we are thinking of a response... Trump does it too. Obama may have floundered on trade and foreign relations behind closed doors but his speeches were always inspiring and unifying. I could not disagree more with what you said. Trump speaks like he never passed 7th grade.




just two of the first videos i found... If you type in Trump’s name into google, one of the first things that pops up as a top search item is “Incoherent rambling”. I would happily post a counter with an inspiring video of his where he speaks for a long time with a message of unity and a clear unbroken train of thought that makes sense the whole way through but as far as I know such a video of this man does not exist.

I will refrain from going any further with the topic as I know I am speaking to a brick wall... Anyone who claims Trump to be a brilliant orator is completely lost...
 
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This has got to be a joke. Trump? A better orator than Obama? You are letting your personal beliefs and bias (and I suspect racism) override common sense. Perhaps you do not know the definition of the word “orator”- “a public speaker, especially one who is eloquent or skilled.” PUBLIC SPEAKING= Prepared remarks. Delivering a speech... Not some pithy hateful attack on someone he doesn’t like, not stammering race baiting remarks to journalists who dare ask him hard questions.. Donald Trump cannot stay on topic for 2 minutes at half his speeches and when he goes off script he tends to spiral into attacks on women, attacks ob minorities (remember all the “fun” comments he made about Mexicans during his campaign?) attacks on handicapped people, or just non-sense babbling/talking in circles and repeating the same things over an over in an incoherent rambling mess. This is the most embarrassing human to ever take any stage representing the US. Obama was a smooth talking, intelligent, thoughtful well spoken and even at times entertaining person to listen to when he was giving a soeech. Like every oerson alive he tends to interject “ummm” and “uhh” into his sentences when answering a question as we say that when we are thinking of a response... Trump does it too. Obama may have floundered on trade and foreign relations behind closed doors but his speeches were always inspiring and unifying. I could not disagree more with what you said. Trump speaks like he never passed 7th grade.




just two of the first videos i found... If you type in Trump’s name into google, one of the first things that pops up as a top search item is “Incoherent rambling”. I would happily post a counter with an inspiring video of his where he speaks for a long time with a message of unity and a clear unbroken train of thought that makes sense the whole way through but as far as I know such a video of this man does not exist.

I will refrain from going any further with the topic as I know I am speaking to a brick wall... Anyone who claims Trump to be a brilliant orator is completely lost...
In other words you like to hear BS rather than action.
 
In other words you like to hear BS rather than action.
No- again, I need to define what orator is apparently. I very clearly have in both those posts Commented on Obama’s inaction in regards especially to foreign policy as his biggest issues. I was talking specifically about his captivating speaking style And how when our country needed a leader to step up and say the right things he hit the mark and he did so eloquently. The only BS around here is the attempts to skew the meaning of what I said and some posters’ inability to give a black man credit for ANYTHING simply because of the color of his skin and the party he is aligned with. Trump is a bumbling fool in front of a microphone. Go watch his rambling incoherent mess of a speech TODAY where be said George Floyd is looking down and smiling because of the new JOBS REPORT!?! It is not only grandstanding and attempting to adopt the current source of outrage to fit his view, it is completely tone deaf and shows he has no clue what the actual issues are. Trump is a complete moron when it comes to trying to be empathetic to the plight of Americans who do not look like him. He has dramatically outperformed his predecessor on trade and foreign relations wins with our enemies and allies alike since he took office. But again that has nothing to do with his skills as an orator which are remedial at best... Easily the worst speaker to ever be elected in the modern age.... and it is not close.
 
Say traffic once more for Chicago. I hate driving in that town. I take the train when I can.

I loved Chicago. I could easily drive in that city especially from the suburbs. The company that I worked at for 40 years had headquarters in Deerfield, Ill. It is very close to Chicago. Many times I would have to spend a week at headquarters and would drive into Chicago after work. A buddy of mine taught me how to drive into Chicago from the city. You are either driving towards the lake or away from the lake. I have been on roads I had never been on before and could drive directly to Chicago and then back and never get lost.
 
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Of course, everyone has different definitions of "nice," "good," "vibrant," etc. and that's what leads a lot of folks to live in or near small towns in rural areas. One of the best gun stores I've ever been in is located in Ennis, MT. One of my favorite camping and outdoors stores was Sunrift Adventures in Traveler's Rest (is it still there?). In contrast, I spent a couple of hours in Harrod's last summer and couldn't find a single thing I wanted to buy (among the few things there I could afford) other than a tin of shortbread cookies. To each his own - people tend to gravitate to what they like, but as somebody stated above, one isn't necessarily "better" or "nicer" than the other. They are simply different.

I have a lot of friends live in large metropolitan areas and when we talk about what we like or dislike about where we live, they always say something similar to the quoted language above. They love being close to shopping, restaurants, the arts, etc. But the reality is, they do the vast majority of their shopping at Target or Walmart, the movie theater is their most frequented entertainment venue, and they can count on hand (usually a couple of fingers) the number of times they have stepped into a museum or performing arts center in the last year. In many cases, even if they wanted to visit those places more often, they simply can't afford to do so.

If I lived were you lived, there is no way I would ever want to move. Especially being retired because that means I could be on the road anytime I wanted.
 
No- again, I need to define what orator is apparently. I very clearly have in both those posts Commented on Obama’s inaction in regards especially to foreign policy as his biggest issues. I was talking specifically about his captivating speaking style And how when our country needed a leader to step up and say the right things he hit the mark and he did so eloquently. The only BS around here is the attempts to skew the meaning of what I said and some posters’ inability to give a black man credit for ANYTHING simply because of the color of his skin and the party he is aligned with. Trump is a bumbling fool in front of a microphone. Go watch his rambling incoherent mess of a speech TODAY where be said George Floyd is looking down and smiling because of the new JOBS REPORT!?! It is not only grandstanding and attempting to adopt the current source of outrage to fit his view, it is completely tone deaf and shows he has no clue what the actual issues are. Trump is a complete moron when it comes to trying to be empathetic to the plight of Americans who do not look like him. He has dramatically outperformed his predecessor on trade and foreign relations wins with our enemies and allies alike since he took office. But again that has nothing to do with his skills as an orator which are remedial at best... Easily the worst speaker to ever be elected in the modern age.... and it is not close.
Once again you have been mislead by a fake news story. Trump was talking about the changes of equality awareness and what his death meant. He was not referring to the jobs report. You need to listen to the start of the speech which which somehow got left out of context. Ridiculous as usual. How about those famous orators Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, neither Bush was that good, Clinton was drawled out so you're left with Reagan, Kennedy and Obama. Go back you might say the Roosevelts.
 
Once again you have been mislead by a fake news story. Trump was talking about the changes of equality awareness and what his death meant. He was not referring to the jobs report. You need to listen to the start of the speech which which somehow got left out of context. Ridiculous as usual. How about those famous orators Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, neither Bush was that good, Clinton was drawled out so you're left with Reagan, Kennedy and Obama. Go back you might say the Roosevelts.
I’m sorry... What?
 
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