What I meant by an early enrollee is that he had another year of high school eligibility which Bmac did not . Was not aware of the fact that Bentley was held back purposely which is another topic in its self . I'm sure that if he would have played out his senior year he would have been in the top 100 easily . He certainly looks the part but a lot of guys do until they hit the field . From what I hear both Bentley and Bmac are super intelligent kids with all the intangibles so it should be interesting to watch them battle it out . I think Champ learned his lesson at Florida putting all his eggs in the Jeff Driskell basket . Nothing wrong with having two highly touted guys fight it out for the job .
Why are all of you on here Calling for Jake Bently ?
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What I meant by an early enrollee is that he had another year of high school eligibility which Bmac did not . Was not aware of the fact that Bentley was held back purposely which is another topic in its self . I'm sure that if he would have played out his senior year he would have been in the top 100 easily . He certainly looks the part but a lot of guys do until they hit the field . From what I hear both Bentley and Bmac are super intelligent kids with all the intangibles so it should be interesting to watch them battle it out . I think Champ learned his lesson at Florida putting all his eggs in the Jeff Driskell basket . Nothing wrong with having two highly touted guys fight it out for the job .
What I meant by an early enrollee is that he had another year of high school eligibility which Bmac did not . Was not aware of the fact that Bentley was held back purposely which is another topic in its self . I'm sure that if he would have played out his senior year he would have been in the top 100 easily . He certainly looks the part but a lot of guys do until they hit the field . From what I hear both Bentley and Bmac are super intelligent kids with all the intangibles so it should be interesting to watch them battle it out . I think Champ learned his lesson at Florida putting all his eggs in the Jeff Driskell basket . Nothing wrong with having two highly touted guys fight it out for the job .
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What if he wasn't ready then but is now?
If the kid is ready and gives us the best chance to win games, play him. That's why he is here.
Everyone talking about redshirting him to put separation between him and McIlwain, just doesn't make sense to me. That seems to be based on the assumption we are not going to recruit any good QBs in the next 3-4 years.
If he was all that ...We would have seen him already! Just the facts folks! We are 2-3 years from being back to 2005-06 teams..
If Jake Bentley is our best shot at being better than 128 of 128 FBS schools in scoring, then we are truly screwed.
Very true! Something everyone seems to be forgetting - Like JB is our LAST shot at ever having someone at the position - LOL! There will be more QBs come in - hopefully some talented ones!
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If Bentley was one of the 2 best QBs on the team, he would have played by now. There seems to an assumption that the coaches would purposely leave one of the best players on the sidelines. This just isn't how it works.
The offensive problems run much deeper than who is playing QB.
The offensive problems run much deeper than who is playing QB.
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Bentley didn't have the advantage of summer practice like McIlwain or game day experience like Orth. Not sure why that is treated like a knock on his ability or talent.
I agree our offensive problems are deeper than the QB position but a deep threat will help with some of those other issues. McIlwain can throw deep but more often than not, over throws the receiver. Seems like he needs some help with his mechanics in the offseason. Orth doesn't seem to have the arm strength. When he does go deep, it's usually a jump ball. He also seems to throw low and behind.
IMHO, if a coach leaves a player on the sideline, who's ready to play and can help win games, he should be fired. I have no problem if the coach doesn't think he's ready, e.g., hasn't adjusted to college speed, hasn't mastered the playbook yet, needs to put on weight, etc. That doesn't mean he can't/won't be ready later.
Most folks are saying he will only be here 3 years. So does this mean we only get 2 years of playing time if he remains red-shirted this year? I have seen other players red-shirt year 1 then play 2 years and move on to the NFL.
Don't really see him being a 3 and done guy . Only the super Elite NFL prototype guys (think Andrew luck ) kinda guys are 3 and done. Very few QB's are even drafted into the league right now, even fewer that go as Redshirt Sophs. And to answer the question if we do redshirt him he can leave after his sophomore year . If I recall Sidney Rice did this . It is extremely rare but can happen .
Yeah working with Bentley next year and we will be doing the same thing as this year. Give him a chance and lets see what happens. Remember when Taneyhill came in half way through the season? We burnt BMAC's redshirt, burnt Nunez's last year so what's the big deal. That is what recruiting is for. For the first time ever ,Alabama is playing a true freshman QB..
Jake Bentley was ranked by ESPN as the 2nd best QB in his junior class and 33rd player in the ESPN Junior 300. Bentley is an extremely talented player.....probably the best QB recruit we've landed this century. Definitely our highest ranked recruit since Clowney. To imply that he's just some regular old 4-star is a disservice to the guy. That doesn't mean he's going to be a superstar out of the gate (or even at all), but I'm at least glad it seems like Muschamp is giving him reps. That's all we can ask for....just give the guy a chance in practice. If he doesn't make strides and doesn't look any better than the other guys in practice, then we definitely should not waste the red-shirt. However to hold him out just for the sake of keeping the red-shirt is short sighted. Finishing strong, especially on offense since that is Muschamp's supposed weak point, will help us tremendously in recruiting.
Where have you been? Offense cannot get to the goal line, averaging only 14 pts. per game.
The big issue is the oline. Dont care what qb or rb we have right now they wont do any better with our oline. That oline is horrible. Maybe the worst oline ive ever seen in college football. We should be recruiting 5 or 6 offensive linemen in this class. You lose the battle at the line and have our offense.
No knock on his ability. Those are just the facts. And those facts have made him 3rd best so far.
Exactly
Stated another way, the offensive problems will continue regardless of who is playing QB.
So what happens if we burn his redshirt and you expert doubters see he wins 4 games, gets us to a bowl with extra practices for the whole team, gets 6 games of experience under his belt, and is in great position to start the season next year as "the man". Dude, chill. You know people can have a difference of opinion and still support the same cause. We all want the best for the program, but maybe we see different ways to do it. Don't condemn those that have a different opinion of yours....
OL sucks, I totally agree. The one thing they do half way decent is pass block. So maybe if we have a QB who can make the throws and defenses have to prepare for that more than usual, the running game may open up some. Just a thought.... Im not an expert!!!
I agree, give the boy a chance. We burnt BMAC's RS, last year we burnt Nunez's RS and this year Alabama is playing a true freshman QB also. So what if we burn his RS, that is why you recruit every year. Does anybody remember when the team was gonna quit on Sparky Woods and he put in Taneyhill and changed the outcome of the season. It may or may not work but we need to try something different.
Actually the whole why now and not before, if it is now, has a legitimate reason if you think about it.
If he starts or plays at UMASS, perhaps the staff also knows the O Line is shaky and was waiting for Camper and Stanley to return.
Just a thought
If he starts or plays at UMASS, perhaps the staff also knows the O Line is shaky and was waiting for Camper and Stanley to return.
Just a thought
Good thought but Tanneyhill played in the Arkansas, game 2 the 45-7 game, threw a pick that was game 2.
He started game 6, home vs Miss State, he played in 9 games in 1992
His redshirt was not lifted game 6
Heard on the radio on the way home from work that Bentley was taking 1st team snaps at practice this week and all signs of him starting next week....maybe they wanted to give him reps this week to see how it goes and if he don't look good they can always go back to orth or b mac....
He turned everything around for our football program and gave us hope. We need that. Maybe JB has progressed enough now, he has all the tools.
Clearly there are many here that know more about football than I do...., but are we suggesting that you don't start the guy that; Practices the hardest, Studies the Playbook the most and gives the most effort?? Mind you these guys aren't getting paid. So, we tell players that if you sacrifice all, you may ride the bench just in case a Frosh might kind of sorta be better than you in the somewhat possible near future!! Maybe I'm just from the Rick Flair school of thought, but you better beat me if you want my job...
Well, I like to see Jake get some playing time this year because next year if BM goes down, we won't have a back up QB ready to go...
For the last 4 years, we haven't been using the back up QB in mop up roles and we're paying the price...
We should go with a 3 QB system... Keep the defense guessing...
In my opinion, Bentley should retain his redshirt for the remainder of the season. If he is as dynamic as everyone thinks, he should have been starting at the beginning of the season and listed as the first backup. I do not think that that we have played that horrible at the quarterback position that would warrant Bentley losing his redshirt. Our offensive line has not shown that they can run block which hinders MC's ability to run and Orth has not shown what we call escape-ability or the ability to extend a third down play. Our better receivers have not been available each game of the season. We knew coming into the season that this was going to be a building process, so why make a haste decision to play Bentley.
JFTR, Luck stayed all 4 years. COULD HAVE gone after his Jr year but decided to stay. Not primary to your point, just thought it was funny he was your example! lol
Bentley needs to play this year. Not saying that he will turn our offense around, run blocking and youth at almost every skill position are the biggest issues . Only saying that it can't be any worse than it already is and if it is going to be any better next year, we need the guys that will battle for the starting qb job next year to get as much experience as possible this year. This is probably the youngest offensive team we've ever had and even the veterans are learning a new system and coach. Now is the time for competition between Bentley and Mcllwain are the future. Even with orth throwing for 288yds, we only managed 14pts because we are young and inconsistent. When are you going to have a better chance to evaluate who is going to lead your offense next year?
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You know....I'm coming around to this point. Did anyone watch Florida's defense yesterday? Good lawd almighty! We'll be fortunate to score in double digits against them -- and Clemson -- on Orth's best day. So if we know how this movie is going to end, why not just let the young guys get experience for next season?
Because I'd rather go into next season with an experienced QB, than a green one. Initially, I saw things your way. Why waste the RS on a dumpster fire season? But then I saw the light. Yes, brother, I've seen the light. Play Bentley now and get him adjusted to the speed of the college game. Makes sense to me now.
I think this is an overlooked thought on this board. Our o line had been pretty bad, but we haven't exactly had a full complement of o linemen. Some guys have played nearly every offensive snap, which probably isn't normal. Without competition for positions, side of the o linemen may have lost some edge. Perhaps getting some players back would help. It might give Bentley a shot if they do decide to play him.
We need Jake Bentley to play just to keep us mildly relavent. He throws the best deep ball on the team, we need someone who can push the ball down the field to open up the run game. Perry doesn't have the arm strength, and Brandon doesn't have the accuracy. Teams load the box against us and dare us to throw it, it's only logical to put our best passing talent in the game considering we're only averaging 14 points a game which is dead last in the NCAA....
Check the stats...
https://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/totalYards
Check the stats...
https://www.espn.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/totalYards
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BMac didn't play against Georgia and Orth can't move the chains... It's Bentley time..
They have shown an ability to pass block at times inserting Bentley makes sense now. We don't have any other options staying pat will not get results that has already been proven.
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