I suspect it is because most people in the US are very interested in men's basketball and are not very interested in women's basketball.
Except when Baylor WBB won the championship, they received an invitation within a few days.
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I suspect it is because most people in the US are very interested in men's basketball and are not very interested in women's basketball.
"Trump is the president of the United States, and if he’s not unifying, he’s not helping.
Him saying, “When the looting starts, the shooting starts” … that type of statement is not helping anybody. That’s not unifying this country. We need a unifier in the position of the most powerful person in the world.
If you can’t be the president for every American, then we as the VOTERS need to change that."
Direct quote from the article. That is unequivocally imploring folks to vote the President out of office.
I am in agreement with some others that it is not in the best interest of any of our coaches to make political commentaries.
As I've said numerous times... I don't have a problem with what she said, I do have a problem with the university athletics accounts tweeting it out because it insinuates they endorse the opinions in the piece. That's all. The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze.No real fan is turning on Dawn Staley. She's a wonderful person who is telling her story and a lot of people are not comfortable hearing. The way her mother was treated growing up, it's amazing she even wanted to come back to South Carolina. We are blessed that she did. And before you criticize her for "turning down" the invitation to the white house, please educate yourself on that story. She wanted to go and was planning on going.
How many times has Coach Martin done the same thing without complaint (and he is a minority too). The issue is the same as it always is in my experience. Anytime a Black person gets a position of influence, some people are immature and expect that person to not be Black anymore or care about issues that affect their families. How hard is it to just disagree and move on if that is what you believe.Again, you're not understanding what I've said several times.... it's fine for her to say what she said. That's freedom of speech. My issue is that by having it tweeted out by USC social media accounts, it's viewed as an endorsement of her opinion that people should vote out Trump and that opinion is likely not the opinion of everyone at the university. You can bet that nothing would ever be tweeted from the official USC athletics account where one of our coaches was wearing a MAGA hat. It would be fine if they did it on their personal accounts however.
Right now, we can only work with the data that we have. The FBI is currently working through the roll out of its National Use of Force Data Collection which will give better data on overall rates as well as who initiated contact (police or civilian), etc. Hopefully, in the coming years, we'll be able to have a more complete conversation about what is happening systemically.
The only problem I have with your post is that in the first paragraph, you talk about micro events (single occurrences - this happened to this guy for this reason) and then seem to extrapolate that into the macro when talking about systemic issues. Its hard to talk about the who's and the why's when the what's are barely defined. The purpose of my post was just to put the data we do have out and let you decide what you will. I have an opinion, but it doesn't help here to throw that into the mix.
Again Tim Scott made almost the exact same quotes about Trump’s response. If you weren’t offended when he said it you shouldn’t be because she said it. Basketball coach or not she has just as much of a right to an opinion as anyone else. If it was seen as support for the actions would you feel the same way?
How many times has Coach Martin done the same thing without complaint (and he is a minority too). The issue is the same as it always is in my experience. Anytime a Black person gets a position of influence, some people are immature and expect that person to not be Black anymore or care about issues that affect their families. How hard is it to just disagree and move on if that is what you believe.
Because she, as a black woman, has MUCH different life experiences than do I as a white woman.
Because it's a chat forum. That's what people do here. We discuss things. I don't care if I disagree with a coaches view. I do care when I see political opinions endorsed by a university. That's not right IMO.How many times has Coach Martin done the same thing without complaint (and he is a minority too). The issue is the same as it always is in my experience. Anytime a Black person gets a position of influence, some people are immature and expect that person to not be Black anymore or care about issues that affect their families. How hard is it to just disagree and move on if that is what you believe.
On his personal page, that's great!And Frank Martin indeed posted a similar, although arguably less partisan, message:
On the Finebaum interview, she basically said the people needed a way to vent and that was the reason for the looting and destruction. That is unbelievable.As I've said numerous times... I don't have a problem with what she said, I do have a problem with the university athletics accounts tweeting it out because it insinuates they endorse the opinions in the piece. That's all. The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze.
So, will you have a problem when Coach Martin wades into the waters of the failures of parents for the 1,000,000th time if the Coronavirus allows for him to go into his usual February losing streak. Will you tell him to stick to sports and the job of getting his team on track? If you won't, then you are being disingenuous.1 - My reply was intended to refute the claim by a previous poster that Staley was not imploring people to vote out Trump. She most definitely was.
2 - Tim Scott is a politician and not a USC head coach. I agree with some others that our coaches at USC should steer clear of making political commentaries. It has nothing to do with rights. We all know people have the right to speak. That doesn't mean it's wise to wade into political discussions as a coach.
As I've said numerous times... I don't have a problem with what she said, I do have a problem with the university athletics accounts tweeting it out because it insinuates they endorse the opinions in the piece. That's all. The stupidity on this board never ceases to amaze.
I haven't seen anything in this link. That backs up your numbers.The Bureau of Justice Statistics doesn't have data published for 2019 or 2020 yet. I used what data they do have, which ranges from twice as many in 2011 to three times as many in 2015, which is the most recent. That is the DOJ statistics. Most of what you find online is from advocacy groups and they usually don't explain how they get their data.
https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=82
My guess was it had to do with the request from the Congressional delegation from Texas making the request.Except when Baylor WBB won the championship, they received an invitation within a few days.
Please understand that I wasn't disagreeing with what you posted or denying the importance of your statistics. I was being very sincere when I thanked you for posting it because it was an earnest attempt to provide factual context to what is often a very emotional issue. I was merely pointing out that the issues over which these protests are occurring are far larger than law enforcement killing black suspects at a higher rate than whites are killed. And indeed, the issues transcend law enforcement.
I haven't seen anything in this link. That backs up your numbers.
You know, I am frustrated and angry at yet ANOTHER demonstration by a certain demographic that can’t deal with events and feelings without erupting in violence and destruction. I need to vent. Let’s see....On the Finebaum interview, she basically said the people needed a way to vent and that was the reason for the looting and destruction. That is unbelievable.
On his personal page, that's great!
Send a link to the tables.You have to actually go into the reports and into the data to see it. There are tables.
It actually used to be easier to get to. They used to have a publicly accessible data base that you could search and sort. Since they are transitioning to the new system, they took the old one down.
Popcorn in hand! Can't wait to hear this.ROFLMAO, HOW......... HOW????
We can agree to disagree on that. Coach Staley points out what she believes in the president's behavior is divisive and implores folks to make a change IF they agree that his behavior is divisive and IF he continues to engage in divisive rhetoric. She makes no statement that she believes the president or his actions are irredeemable, whether she feels that way or not.
And I sincerely don't think that whether this statement was in the "best interest of our coaches" was anywhere close to a consideration for her. If you don't believe that such statements are in the best interest of the university, that is a different concern entirely; obviously, since the university is promoting the essay on its official social media, the administration apparently disagrees with you. If you have a problem with that, you should voice those concerns to Tanner and Caslen.
Who is this Dawn Stanley you speak of.. Paul's wife? Why would she be making political statements?Something is very noticeable on this board. When Frank Martin says something outside of the realm of sports, he gets it. He gets it so much that you have a good percentage that want to give him a pass on his mediocre record on what he is paid to do. When Dawn Stanley says something, you get a 4 page thread with a good portion talking about how she should stick to sports. No, she shouldn't, nor should any other of these Power 5 coaches in Basketball or Football whose main charge is to guide and protect kids who in many cases look a whole lot like George Floyd. If they don't stand up for them, then who will, and why do they even have these jobs in the first place? As most coaches will tell you in times of no controversy, their role is more than wins and losses. However, as I have learned through 53 years of life, people tend to only want to hear what you have to say when they agree.
So, will you have a problem when Coach Martin wades into the waters of the failures of parents for the 1,000,000th time if the Coronavirus allows for him to go into his usual February losing streak. Will you tell him to stick to sports and the job of getting his team on track? If you won't, then you are being disingenuous.
there was way more police killings in obama years so yes, lets vote to make sure it doesnt go back to thatAs if police were all great before 2016.
Any names mentioned?No. She said it to an outside publication which is fine, but by the University promoting it, it makes it look like the University is endorsing a political party, which is wrong. If the men's tennis coach tweeted in the 2008 election that he didn't like Obama and he was voting for the republican candidate, that would be fine, but if the athletics account promoted it, it would be inappropriate and folks would call him a racist. That's how it works and there is a double standard.
Well they haven't gotten better... If that is your argument.As if police were all great before 2016.
Correct. Notwithstanding whether not not one is a Trump supporter.Agreed. She was right about this. Trump's administration dropped the ball on this one.
If DS is clearly stating like/dislike for specific politicians and naming their names, we should all be upset.we know she hates Trump, i dont have a problem with that, except when she starts using the University of South Carolina as a sounding board!! I am paying Thousands to the university and disagree with her.. Should i not be upset??
I'm certain that liberals aren't the only ones good at rewriting history.....Liberals are good of rewriting history....
That's why you don't see stories about Robert Byrd, the Grand Wizards Poobah being eulogized Hillary...
Your phrasing sounds like that of Kitty Genovese.After harping back and forth about the protesters, rioters and what Staley said; the one person in the middle of this has been forgotten in all this and that's George Floyd....
After seeing the video and listening to this poor guy was calling out for help as a lot of people stood by and filmed a murder...
We can agree to disagree on that. Coach Staley points out what she believes in the president's behavior is divisive and implores folks to make a change IF they agree that his behavior is divisive and IF he continues to engage in divisive rhetoric. She makes no statement that she believes the president or his actions are irredeemable, whether she feels that way or not.
And I sincerely don't think that whether this statement was in the "best interest of our coaches" was anywhere close to a consideration for her. If you don't believe that such statements are in the best interest of the university, that is a different concern entirely; obviously, since the university is promoting the essay on its official social media, the administration apparently disagrees with you. If you have a problem with that, you should voice those concerns to Tanner and Caslen.
All I know is cities and peoples lives are being destroyed. The police has to protect the innocent people from the looters, arsonists, and terrorists.[/QUOTE you are exactly right! what these people that claim they need to vote to get Trump out needs to know one thing! who the hell do you think is doing all the rioting? it damn sure aint conservatives. and Trump damn sure had nothing to do with that police officer killing Floyd! so exactly what are yall getting at when you say you need to make sure you vote in november? i dont think yall understand much of anything!
I think yo just made it pretty clear that what your problem is who you think she wanted voted out of office. If she had a picture of a MAGA hat is would be a different tune.Again, you're not understanding what I've said several times.... it's fine for her to say what she said. That's freedom of speech. My issue is that by having it tweeted out by USC social media accounts, it's viewed as an endorsement of her opinion that people should vote out Trump and that opinion is likely not the opinion of everyone at the university. You can bet that nothing would ever be tweeted from the official USC athletics account where one of our coaches was wearing a MAGA hat. It would be fine if they did it on their personal accounts however.
I can’t believe it took 185 posts to blame Obama.So, is she saying race problems are Trumps fault? Because she’s stupid if that’s the case, that started with Obama criminalizing the Police.
Somehow, I think she likely consulted with RT before posting.
And note that it states not what she feels, but what "you" feel.