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Pumper Logic Explained

I think 3 games was plenty in this case, which has subsequently been proven to be true after 7 games, including another humiliating blow out to a less than stellar TN team. and another last minute one point come from behind win against a terrible team.

A new coach doesn't have any players they have recruited, doesn't have their system in place, and hasn't run off the troublemakers yet. If you insist on the first three games being the measure, you will never get a coach here.
 
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One game? One game that was within a touchdown, lost the fans? Pretty crappy fans if so. Kentucky won because they had a 100 more yards, ten more first downs, 15 more plays and an outstanding 144 yard rusher. That offset the three turnovers. Not hard to work out. Kentucky is a 6-1 team, hardly a reason to lose the fans if a close loss. IMHO, Muschamp loses that game by 20.
It's more likely that the 3 turnovers are what kept us in the game. Sure, we squandered an opportunity for a win but if it wasn't for those 3 turnovers we never would have been close. Kentucky is legit this year. I was more disappointed in the way we looked against Vanderbilt than I was with the loss to Kentucky.
 
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A new coach doesn't have any players they have recruited, doesn't have their system in place, and hasn't run off the troublemakers yet. If you insist on the first three games being the measure, you will never get a coach here.
So you don't think 3 games is enough? How about 7? You seem to be judging by wins and losses. I'm not. I didn't expect to win many games. I'm judging by what I see on the field. IMO, this staff just doesn't have what it takes no matter how many games they play or who they recruit.
 
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And it was late in the year after the team had quit and we were in upheaval status. Folks forget we were actually competitive to start the year and then the LSU game came and it was all downhill after that.
Exactly. That Kentucky game was the dumpster fire everyone playing for themselves game.
 
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So that's your moral victory? For me I don't expect to EVER get blown out by anybody. I didn't expect to win against UGA but I expect the team to be somewhat competitive. And I damn sure didn't expect to get blown out by TN. To me those are humiliating games.
Then your expectations are unrealistic based on the players we lost on defense.
 
So you don't think 3 games is enough? How about 7? You seem to be judging by wins and losses. I'm not. I didn't expect to win many games. I'm judging by what I see on the field. IMO, this staff just doesn't have what it takes no matter how many games they play or who they recruit.
There is no way to determine that in three games. There is a lot to teach and only so many practices. Plus no one looks good on the field against Georgia and so it is really quite a snap judgment you are making.
 
It's more likely that the 3 turnovers are what kept us in the game. Sure, we squandered an opportunity for a win but if it wasn't for those 3 turnovers we never would have been close. Kentucky is legit this year. I was more disappointed in the way we looked against Vanderbilt than I was with the loss to Kentucky.
Of course take away the best thing that happened to you and it makes it worse. Have their 144 yard rusher get -0- yards and SC wins this game.
 
There is no way to determine that in three games. There is a lot to teach and only so many practices. Plus no one looks good on the field against Georgia and so it is really quite a snap judgment you are making.
Of course there is. There have now been 8 games and the same things are holding true. Therefore, the 3 game sample is indicative of the entire season thus far. Another blow out loss against an SEC team is in line with the other blowout losses to the other 2 quality SEC teams faced thus far. I think it is evident as to what we have now from a player and coaching perspective.
 
EVERYBODY knew what we had at the beginning of season. That's why the over/under for wins was 3.5

And if you told them that we would be playing a grad assistant at QB, they probably would have dropped that to 2.5
 
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It's more likely that the 3 turnovers are what kept us in the game. Sure, we squandered an opportunity for a win but if it wasn't for those 3 turnovers we never would have been close. Kentucky is legit this year. I was more disappointed in the way we looked against Vanderbilt than I was with the loss to Kentucky.

That's just not true. We score ZERO points off those turnovers. And our defense was keeping Kentucky out of the end zone. They may have added a field goal or two, at best.
 
That's just not true. We score ZERO points off those turnovers. And our defense was keeping Kentucky out of the end zone. They may have added a field goal or two, at best.
Wait the same defense that can’t stop any other offense?! THE CLAYTON WHITE TURNOVER MACHINEEEEEE

Every single game for the rest of the year I will bring up how absolutely moronic you sound. UK stopped themselves, not USC.
 
Well, I hate to be "that guy" but you also are not taking in the covid factor. A lot of people are not coming because they don't want to be in a crowd of 70,000 plus friends. I have two friends that have not been to a single game this season, but own seats in 403. Eight seats that went empty for Vandy and Troy. Another friend that missed both games (8 seats) also had covid and just got out of the hospital yesterday. Didn't know he was down until yesterday when I texted him to see why he missed Vandy. His brother texted back that they just brought him home from hospital and he would contact me over the weekend.

And to be fair, OFFENSE brings in the crowds. We don't have any offense.

I think both of these plus the opponents being Vandy and Troy was the reason. FYI, there are NO pairs of seats available from the University in the LOWER BOWL for both Florida and Auburn. There are singles, but no pairs left to purchase. And that has been the case for 2 weeks now.

Maybe it was the poor opponents that was the cause???
Covid must be a bigger factor here than anywhere else. I saw large crowds all over the place the last few weeks. It will be interesting to see what the crowd is like once Beamer gets things going. I am not sure we will ever see a packed stadium again
 
Everyone with a brain knew this was going to be a very bad season. Now that it has been exactly as predicted, the pitchfork patties are in an uproar.🙄
I think we all expected 4-8,5-7, maybe 6-6 at best. What we did not expect was that we would be out and I mean game over at half time against UGA, UT, and A&M. We expected to be a little more competitive than what we are right now. I still say 6-6 is not out of the question. I think Clemson and Florida are beatable if the fans show up, get loud, and stay loud.
 
Doomer logic: I don't care if we've had incredible single season turn around in two phases, I choose to only focus on the one that's underachieving and expect a first year coach working with a team that had already beaten the preseason predictions 8 games into his first season. I also choose to believe that even though defense shot up 50 spots in team rankings and special teams went from only being good at punting to the top rated special teams unit in the country, that this coach can't possibly do the same thing on offense if given a couple of years. I root against my team to lose so I can thump my chest about being right, I predicted we'd only win 2 or 3 games and have already been proven wrong and I will never accept the Beamer hire but if we got Chadwell, I'd be happy to be in the same place until I slowly over the course of 5 years realize that the spread option will never work in the SEC and I could've known that if I just watched what happened everytime Chip Kelly played a team with a pulse, with the exception of LSU earlier this year.

You tell me though, what did you think the win total would be and what did you expect it of this defense? I'll tell you what I expected, I didn't think the OL would struggle this much with the zone run. I thought Tennessee would be a wreck even though I knew they had less positions of weakness I thought they'd still be bogged down with locker room cancer. I predicted 9 wins assuming Doty would be healthy, I expected reasonable improvement from the OL, serious improvement from the WRs and that Smith and Prunty would make it next to impossible to throw on us but of course Prunty never played a game and Doty got hurt so I started figuring weed be at 7 and I wasn't sure we'd top Kentucky, was just hopeful. Of course wrong about Kentucky, which I thought I could be but chose optimism, wrong about Tennessee but their culture is put of our control. I knew Georgia would be what they are, I knew TAMU would have our number in the trenches and we'll see that Saturday and I anticipate Florida to be bad for us. That optimism that I had before our roster even turned into this doesn't mean it was an expectation, but you clearly expect we won't go bowling so tell me how you've reached that decision already and tell me how this roster not going bowling prices Shane can't coach.
Our offensive woes lie squarely on the oline. When a defense can rush 3 or 4 and still pressure the qb within 2 or 3 seconds...it's a major issue. Heck, even our constant dropped passes has improved....our oline is hurting....I can't recall ever seeing a worse oline.
 
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Appreciate your post, agreement is never required. That's why I love these boards, dissenting opinions are essential. I do not believe Beamer is ready for this job but have said he could grow into the job. But that will be a painful, miserable process.

That being said, this offseason is going to be critical. Satterfield has to be removed. I'd call Art Briles but at minimum why not get someone like GA Mangus here? Both of those guys are available and would crawl to Columbia. A sputtering offense will doom any head coach. As I've said many times, you can't be bad and boring. That's a death spiral for the fanbase and creates apathy quickly.
I wouldn't say we are boring....have seen some of the head scratching plays that's been called? Now bad I'll give ya.
 
Well, I hate to be "that guy" but you also are not taking in the covid factor. A lot of people are not coming because they don't want to be in a crowd of 70,000 plus friends. I have two friends that have not been to a single game this season, but own seats in 403. Eight seats that went empty for Vandy and Troy. Another friend that missed both games (8 seats) also had covid and just got out of the hospital yesterday. Didn't know he was down until yesterday when I texted him to see why he missed Vandy. His brother texted back that they just brought him home from hospital and he would contact me over the weekend.

And to be fair, OFFENSE brings in the crowds. We don't have any offense.

I think both of these plus the opponents being Vandy and Troy was the reason. FYI, there are NO pairs of seats available from the University in the LOWER BOWL for both Florida and Auburn. There are singles, but no pairs left to purchase. And that has been the case for 2 weeks now.

Maybe it was the poor opponents that was the cause???
Tell your friend he can donate those tickets to vet tix or similar to put butts in those seats...or sell them if need be, although he must realize, he's not getting top dollar for them.
 
Of course there is. There have now been 8 games and the same things are holding true. Therefore, the 3 game sample is indicative of the entire season thus far. Another blow out loss against an SEC team is in line with the other blowout losses to the other 2 quality SEC teams faced thus far. I think it is evident as to what we have now from a player and coaching perspective.
Your defintion of quality must be teams that can beat Alabama. 4-4 looks pretty good to me. He needs at least one upset before the end of the season and the remaining good teams, Clemson, Missouri, etc all look like possibles.
 
We have a huge problem. We have been told that good fans support the team. We have been doing it for 100+ years. That is a lie.

Good fans demand results. When you figure that out, then you know the truth—- South Carolina has the worse fans in the country.

They will gladly pay thousands of dollars to watch a team that loses week in and week out, year in and year out. No need to produce a winner as the money will keep flowing in. Sure, every few years you need to blame a coach and give them a pay day. Yet you don’t have to figure out the problem—- they are suckers and will keep feeding you money.

120 years of history prove me right.
 
I think we all expected 4-8,5-7, maybe 6-6 at best. What we did not expect was that we would be out and I mean game over at half time against UGA, UT, and A&M. We expected to be a little more competitive than what we are right now. I still say 6-6 is not out of the question. I think Clemson and Florida are beatable if the fans show up, get loud, and stay loud.
Hey, you got my cash ready?
 
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Your defintion of quality must be teams that can beat Alabama. 4-4 looks pretty good to me. He needs at least one upset before the end of the season and the remaining good teams, Clemson, Missouri, etc all look like possibles.
Boy, you are really stretching like a bungee cord to come up with that nonsense. So 4-4 looks good to you even though they include 3 total blowout losses, 2 cupcake wins(one close), and 2 narrow come from behind wins against teams that shouldn't even be on the field with us? You certainly have low standards.
 
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Not compared to some people around here. I'm not ready to fire the world. But I've been watching football for more than 60 years. I know when a program is bereft. Right now, ours is. I also know when there is more than one reason for the futility.
I thought everyone said the sole reason was the incompetent AD?
 
Boy, you are really stretching like a bungee cord to come up with that nonsense. So 4-4 looks good to you even though they include 3 total blowout losses, 2 cupcake wins(one close), and 2 narrow come from behind wins against teams that shouldn't even be on the field with us? You certainly have low standards.
For a new coach. Plus Georgia blows out everyone and A&M just beat Alabama. I am not sure how people here think a new coach in his first year taking over from the Muschamp disaster is going to be beating Georgia, Alabama and teams that beat Alabama.
 
For a new coach. Plus Georgia blows out everyone and A&M just beat Alabama. I am not sure how people here think a new coach in his first year taking over from the Muschamp disaster is going to be beating Georgia, Alabama and teams that beat Alabama.
6 yards through 3 qtrs. Has to be a record.
 
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