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OT: Who here still pays attention to cdc or faucci?

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He the head of infectious diseases for cdc....for crying out loud. I hope the cynicism is limited to a few on this board.

Yes, I’m a scientist also and while not all knowing there is reasoning, experiments, studies, all in play to try to save lives.

You might want to read this... In step #14 there are some excellent videos. One showing how Bill Gates invested $20 million into vaccine "research" and he says he is getting 20 fold return on his money. He will have a "chip" installed in all of us by 2025...
 
Why did they have a foundation that was forced to shut down. Did they create a fake university to bilk their fellow citizens out of their hard earned money. Then you know, the guy who said he never settles lawsuits, despite having settled hundreds of them, shockingly settled & agreed to repay approx 25 mil to the victims of his scam.
Fortunately for the country he lost his job by a margin he previously called a landslide.
At least his VP never called him the biggest racist and rapist the government has ever seen!! His VP...........these people.
 
Fraud happened. It wasn’t a lie.
Trump's win was because of fraud. That's not a lie. See how easy it is to just spout BS without anything to back it up. Trumps minions are somewhere close to 1 (distance from observers to vote counters ) for 60 when they have to actually provide evidence of this alleged fraud. The leading purveyor of the voting machine lie said in her defense that essentially only an idiot would have believed what she was saying. Did you believe it? If you're embarassed to answer I completely understand. Get fed a lie, then you're told you are an idiot if you believed it. That's gotta sting
 
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You might want to read this... In step #14 there are some excellent videos. One showing how Bill Gates invested $20 million into vaccine "research" and he says he is getting 20 fold return on his money. He will have a "chip" installed in all of us by 2025...
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Why, did they have a foundation that was forced to shut down? Did they create a fake university to bilk their fellow citizens out of their hard earned money? Then you know, the guy who said he never settles lawsuits, despite having settled hundreds of them, shockingly settled & agreed to repay approx 25 mil to the victims of his scam.
Fortunately for the country he lost his job by a margin he previously called a landslide.
I hope you know Every university is scamming kids all day, every day. Lmao. That’s a far cry from being in bed with the communist Chinese and selling our country out for a few million to set the FAM up for life. Get a freaking clue. You can’t spin this away. I don’t know if your a socialist traitor or just stupid but both carry the same end result.
 
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Trump's win was because of fraud. That's not a lie. See how easy it is to just spout BS without anything to back it up. Trumps minions are somewhere close to 1 (distance from observers to vote counters ) for 60 when they have to actually provide evidence of this alleged fraud. The leading purveyor of the voting machine lie said in her defense that essentially only an idiot would have believed what she was saying. Did you believe it? If you're embarassed to answer I completely understand. Get fed a lie, then you're told you are an idiot if you believed it. That's gotta sting
Research Jovan Pulitzer. He uncovered the algorithm used by Dominion to change votes. Ask yourself why EVERY toss up state that was undecided ALL stopped counting votes at the same time.
 
Half of what you wrote has nothing to do with Trump's response. "Not wanting to create panic" is not a strategy. Like everything with Trump, that was a way to try to protect his reputation or image. It was a massive failure. I am not talking about Joe Biden.
Just admit it, you hate Trump. I love the guy — greatest President ever. His harsh but true words made sissies hate him.
 
I guarantee you it isn’t limited to a “few on this board”. There are a whole lot of people out there who have grown weary of his flip-flopping and fear-mongering. I listened to what he had to say early on, but quickly grew to not trust him. He’s a spotlight whore who wants his 15min to last forever. Jmo

Please name one instance of flip-flopping. You can't do it.

And please don't even try with the instance where he advised against wearing N95 masks, and then advocated the wearing of masks. That was NOT a flip-flop: he advised against the public purchasing and wearing N95 masks when it was not yet determined that people with covid-19 could be asymptomatic carriers, and the supply of N95 masks for health-care providers and first-responders was very low.

After the asymptomatic infections were determined, Fauci STILL did not advocate the public purchasing of N95 masks, but rather the same plain cloth facial coverings that people wear today. And for that matter, Fauci NEVER advised AGAINST wearing masks or face coverings, just not to purchase N95 masks and other PPE that were in low supplies and most needed by primary health-care providers.

So that was NOT a "flip-flop", that was updated advice based on updated knowledge of a novel virus that the medical community was learning about on the fly as the virus was spreading through the world.....

So what else do you got???
 
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Research Jovan Pulitzer. He uncovered the algorithm used by Dominion to change votes. Ask yourself why EVERY toss up state that was undecided ALL stopped counting votes at the same time.

Hahaha. Ask yourself why every person that ever made the claim publicly, not on an anonymous message board, took back every single word regarding it. It's not because of the legal fees. President Trump could afford them, and in fact could have fund-raised to have his worshipers pay for it. Oddly enough trump didn't take the bait, even though he's used to losing business ventures.
 
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I heard it was Antifa....you know, the same ones who stormed the Capitol dressed in Trump gear. They're all a bunch of libs.

I also hear it was libs funding all the lies coming out from Fox news. Only Trump and Putin are the good guys.

I heard it was George Soros made to look like Dr. Fauci with video editing from Venezuela created by Hugo Chavez.....
 
I hope you know Every university is scamming kids all day, every day. Lmao. That’s a far cry from being in bed with the communist Chinese and selling our country out for a few million to set the FAM up for life. Get a freaking clue. You can’t spin this away. I don’t know if your a socialist traitor or just stupid but both carry the same end result.

The Trump family has far more connections and "deals" with Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia than the Biden family will EVER have, and they have documented evidence of theirs, compared to just unfounded hearsay and misrepresented history of the Trumpers.

But then, Trumpers have NEVER needed to rely on truth or fact - conspiracy theory is ALWAYS more believable than hard cold TRUTH, because TRUTH doesn't tell you what you only want to hear every time you want to hear it....
 
Research Jovan Pulitzer. He uncovered the algorithm used by Dominion to change votes. Ask yourself why EVERY toss up state that was undecided ALL stopped counting votes at the same time.

You mean the same guy who self-described himself as:

"somewhat reclusive genius with the technical know-how of Bill Gates, the daring of a Richard Branson, and the marketing genius of a Sam Walton mixed with a touch of Ted Turner and the media hype that surrounds Donald Trump..."​


Yep - glad that HE doesn't focus on hyping himself like Fauci does.......
 
Research Jovan Pulitzer. He uncovered the algorithm used by Dominion to change votes. Ask yourself why EVERY toss up state that was undecided ALL stopped counting votes at the same time.
No he didn’t. He’s claimed to have hacked a poll pad which only houses the poll book. Of course he provided no evidence of doing so only claimed it in a “hearing”.

States also didn’t stop counting all at the same time. No matter how many times something is repeated it doesn’t make it true.
 
Is he flip-flopping, or is his opinion changing based on what we learn on a daily basis about the previously unknown virus and how it spreads?

New diseases and viruses generally take years of study to understand to any degree of certainty. It seems his opinions are based on any day on up-to-date information that changes all the time as we learn more. Take surface transmission - at the beginning it was thought that could be a major factor because it could live on some surfaces for up to a week (much longer than any other virus that affects us). However, now after much study we realize that surface transmission is no longer a worry to any critical degree. Flip-flopping? Or gained knowledge?
Don't even start to discuss how fast and varied they can mutate....it would blow their minds.
 
The Trump family has far more connections and "deals" with Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia than the Biden family will EVER have, and they have documented evidence of theirs, compared to just unfounded hearsay and misrepresented history of the Trumpers.

But then, Trumpers have NEVER needed to rely on truth or fact - conspiracy theory is ALWAYS more believable than hard cold TRUTH, because TRUTH doesn't tell you what you only want to hear every time you want to hear it....
Truth is Trumps an international businessman and has been his entire life. He’s one of the top negotiators worldwide which is exactly what Americans needed. Biden hasn’t created anything but derelict children and broken promises. The man is a useless lying waste of humanity who’s been living off backs of hardworking taxpayers. The typical 50 year politician
 
Everything there is true. I know it hurts your feelings but it's still true. Trump 's fraud university, using a foundation as a "personal piggy bank" as described by a judge & convincing pure unadulterated idiots that a foreign county was going to pay for a wall built in the US. Why have you people stopped with the jobs not mobs mantra. Man that was popular for months & now you just never hear it. Strange.
Your ignorance is the truth.
 
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Why, did they have a foundation that was forced to shut down? Did they create a fake university to bilk their fellow citizens out of their hard earned money? Then you know, the guy who said he never settles lawsuits, despite having settled hundreds of them, shockingly settled & agreed to repay approx 25 mil to the victims of his scam.
Fortunately for the country he lost his job by a margin he previously called a landslide.

That's what happens (Trump's win) when you put up garbage candidates like Hilary Clinton. Many of the votes cast for Trump were actually against her. Biden's probably an even bigger buffoon but alas, the left was able to exploit Covid. That's what beat Trump. Biden is a senile old crooked Swamp creature. Absent Covid flawed Trump would have clobbered Beijing Biden.
 
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That's what happens (Trump's win) when you put up garbage candidates like Hilary Clinton. Many of the votes cast for Trump were actually against her. Biden's probably an even bigger buffoon but alas, the left was able to exploit Covid. That's what beat Trump. Biden is a senile old crooked Swamp creature. Absent Covid flawed Trump would have clobbered Beijing Biden.
yeah hillary was awful, it is like that when a woman tries to follow a black man as potus
but, yeah, sure.....having tons of experience in government foreign policy and not being a psychotic fool...hillary sure was deficient
the loss of white male dominance was just not going to happen
so the dems offer up an old white man and wins
yeah, its all true.
lock her up? meanwhile the only people locked up are trumpers
child sex trafficking....whoa......Pizzagaetz
 
Joe Biden speaking of his son Hunter “he is the smartest man I know, I mean, in a pure intellectual capacity.”

Hunter admitted in an televised interview that he smoked a bunch of Parmesan cheese because it looked like crack cocaine.

If Hunter is the smartest then....
if you keep talking about hunter joe might lose the election...oh wait
meanwhile none of the white nationalists want to speak of matt gaetz.....where did old mattie go anyhoo?
 
Everything there is true. I know it hurts your feelings but it's still true. Trump 's fraud university, using a foundation as a "personal piggy bank" as described by a judge & convincing pure unadulterated idiots that a foreign county was going to pay for a wall built in the US. Why have you people stopped with the jobs not mobs mantra. Man that was popular for months & now you just never hear it. Strange.
Mexico and Canada did pay for the wall. It’s called the USMCA.
 
yeah hillary was awful, it is like that when a woman tries to follow a black man as potus
but, yeah, sure.....having tons of experience in government foreign policy and not being a psychotic fool...hillary sure was deficient
the loss of white male dominance was just not going to happen
so the dems offer up an old white man and wins
yeah, its all true.
lock her up? meanwhile the only people locked up are trumpers
child sex trafficking....whoa......Pizzagaetz
Stick to music. Politics and facts aren’t your strong suit.
 
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Please name one instance of flip-flopping. You can't do it.

And please don't even try with the instance where he advised against wearing N95 masks, and then advocated the wearing of masks.

I had to laugh at this. Name his flip flops! But not this flip flop! That doesnt count.

I wont bother to go from memory, but I did just type "fauci flip flops" into google and found many pages of links. I'm sure theres an explanation for all of them.


 
yeah hillary was awful, it is like that when a woman tries to follow a black man as potus
but, yeah, sure.....having tons of experience in government foreign policy and not being a psychotic fool...hillary sure was deficient
the loss of white male dominance was just not going to happen
so the dems offer up an old white man and wins
yeah, its all true.
lock her up? meanwhile the only people locked up are trumpers
child sex trafficking....whoa......Pizzagaetz
Yes, hillary was awful. An awful person and an awful candidate.

But that doesnt matter if we can pull out an "ism" ( in this case sexism) and blame white men again.
 
As someone who's in a group that the cdc advises not wearing a mask, these mandates are basically telling me to sit at home even though I am fully vaccinated. That is not ok.
But since they wont give us hard numbers as to when things can get somewhat back to normal, my hope is our spineless leaders are just waiting for the school year to end before lifting some restrictions as to not upset the teachers unions but just dont want to tell us that.
But dont get me wrong, if a private business wants to have a mask mandate, fine, I'll go somewhere that doesnt. I just want that option.
The only other hope I can have is if the business community says enough is enough and forces change if this continues much longer. Man it would be fun to watch them refuse service to elected officials. I'd want a front row seat to that, if I could wear a mask.
 
You can say what you want to about Trump but before the Chinese released the highly engineered Covid virus from their Bio-weapons lab in Wuhan the US economy was doing great. Trump was winding down wars that had been fought for generations for the benefit of the Deep State and the Military-Industrial complex. We were not about to have to go to war with Russian in the Ukraine and China in Tiawan.

Now we have a ruined economy thanks to Biden and the Democrats, and the new taxes will ruin the stock market. Inflation is rising at a rapid rate and a lot of people will not be able to buy basic things like food, shelter and medication. They call it Stagflation, remember when Jimmy Carter gave us that great economy? War with Russian will destroy Europe. China will do what it wants to with Asia, Biden cannot stop them.

And don't forget who created a border crisis that is bringing thousands of unwanted Covid carrying migrants into our country that we now have to pay for while millions of Americans lost their livelihood due to an unneeded lockdown.
 
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You can say what you want to about Trump but before the Chinese released the highly engineered Covid virus from their Bio-weapons lab in Wuhan the US economy was doing great. Trump was winding down wars that had been fought for generations for the benefit of the Deep State and the Military-Industrial complex. We were not about to have to go to war with Russian in the Ukraine and China in Tiawan.

Now we have a ruined economy thanks to Biden and the Democrats, and the new taxes will ruin the stock market. Inflation is rising at a rapid rate and a lot of people will not be able to buy basic things like food, shelter and medication. They call it Stagflation, remember when Jimmy Carter gave us that great economy? War with Russian will destroy Europe. China will do what it wants to with Asia, Biden cannot stop them.

And don't forget who created a border crisis that is bringing thousands of unwanted Covid carrying migrants into our country that we now have to pay for while millions of Americans lost their livelihood due to an unneeded lockdown.

Well said.
 
if you keep talking about hunter joe might lose the election...oh wait
meanwhile none of the white nationalists want to speak of matt gaetz.....where did old mattie go anyhoo?
I made no statement about the election, nor Gaetz...but thanks for deflecting.

I just pointed out who Joe says is the smartest person he knows...just a VERY low bar...I wonder what smoking Parmesan tastes like?? Or screwing your dead brother’s wife?...or maybe charging $10 mil to set up introductions between the CCP and my family? But that’s all all Russian disinformation right?
 
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Folks, the reason vaccinated people are still being asked to wear masks is simply because we have a segment of the population that is refusing to get vaccinated, or wear masks many times. I find it very odd they are refusing the one positive accomplishment Trump may have had while in office, getting a vaccine to market with Op warp speed. May be his greatest accomplishment, yet many of his followers refuse it. We've lost more Americans to this virus than we did in 3-4 wars fought over 100 years.
 
Folks, the reason vaccinated people are still being asked to wear masks is simply because we have a segment of the population that is refusing to get vaccinated, or wear masks many times. I find it very odd they are refusing the one positive accomplishment Trump may have had while in office, getting a vaccine to market with Op warp speed. May be his greatest accomplishment, yet many of his followers refuse it. We've lost more Americans to this virus than we did in 3-4 wars fought over 100 years.
I think you overlook the younger adults that view themselves as invincible. One would think they make up a majority of the non-vac crowd. I would guess few are Trump supporters. Regardless, we shouldnt be waiting on anyone to change their opinion if they dont want it. Once appointments can be gotten easily on the first attempt, it's time to move on.
 
Folks, the reason vaccinated people are still being asked to wear masks is simply because we have a segment of the population that is refusing to get vaccinated, or wear masks many times. I find it very odd they are refusing the one positive accomplishment Trump may have had while in office, getting a vaccine to market with Op warp speed. May be his greatest accomplishment, yet many of his followers refuse it. We've lost more Americans to this virus than we did in 3-4 wars fought over 100 years.
Why are you attributing non-mask wearing to supporting Donald Trump?
 
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