maybe. i'm 43. if i live an average life span, electric vehicles will not overtake gas in my lifetime. or probably my children.
Trade your gas car or truck for electric?
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maybe. i'm 43. if i live an average life span, electric vehicles will not overtake gas in my lifetime. or probably my children.
Truck owners know the importance of high torque for towing and hauling heavy loads. The Nissan Titan is the leader with 555 ft lbs of torque. In comparison the Mustang EV crossover makes 600 ft lbs.
I have 36000 miles on a Model S Tesla. 370 mile version. When I travel across the country I normally charge for 15 minutes at a supercharger and go another 180 miles(about the time I need a break). Charging slows down after half full. I never go near a handy mart anymore. The charger in my garage is wonderful(40 miles per hour)
I bought the car because it was best self driving option not because it was electric.
I would not go back to gas car. To much time getting oil changed etc. I have not been to a Tesla dealership yet. Battery degradation is not a problem. I have run into people at superchargers with 500k miles on early versions(it takes along time to get that many miles)
I've seen quite a few self service charging stations at Walmarts and it doesn't take long for a charge.
I paid $4K for my SONY WEGA 40" and I just paid $200 for 55". The cost will come down when it is mass produce and they are more options to choose from. I think Telsa is keeping the cost up with supply and demand. I have been to the plant in Freemont, CA. They can automatic the process better and keep cost down and speed up manufacturing, but why would they. There's no one else that can match them.
He is coming out with a 25k car probably next year. He has been steadily reducing prices of his cars especially more expensive ones.
How much does it cost for this quick charge? I am safe to say, it ain't free.
Taking into account the average male life span in the U.S. is 78 years of age, and assuming your children may be in their teens-twenties, you really don think electric vehicles will overtake gas in the next 35 years or including your children's life span 85 years ??
I would not lay any wagers on that.
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Dude, people use F250 Superduty, or similar to pull big campers or hot shot loads. A powerstroke diesel makes 1050 ft/pounds of torque. You're comparing apples with oranges.
I would like to add, just take a look at how long it took smart phones to spread through out the world. I think the first smart phone was introduced by Steve Jobs in 2007.
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We will be enjoying our electric cars while the Chinese and Indians pass us bye
LIPO batteries are very volatile due to their chemistry. I fly model airplanes and have to store my lipos in ammo cans just so I don't worry about burning my house down. Anyone who has seen a lipo fire knows what I mean. Electric cars may indeed be future but not lipo technology
Um, there are 580 vehicles on the road for every one Tesla. I would hope Tesla had a lower rate of catching fire.
This is what most people don’t understand. I’m getting 220 miles or so on my standard range plus. In my daily travel, I’m usually not driving 110 miles away from the house so I can make it back home without charging.
Even if I do, I just charge enough to get to the next charging station or home. By the time I take a leak or order some food, I’m pretty much ready to roll.
This car is built as well, if not better, than any car on the market.
It may be the greatest hose job in modern history to convince people that electric cars are better for the environment than gas-powered cars.
I was talking about per miles driven.
I really was not a fan of electric cars or Elon Musk. Just an old man that drives a lot of miles wanting to avoid accidents and had enough money to buy longest range.
After buying the car I was amazed at all the engineering involved.
The first trip I made that would involve recharging I got in the car and said navigate to home. Tesla plots course to Florence superchargers, told me how many were available and how long I would need to charge. This was on my way home.
Other times it says things like drive at 70 or below you will make it and shows you your options on superchargers. When it tells you the speed to drive at to get there you arrive at home with about 20 miles left.
I don't see this being as useful for farm and construction work.
I really was not a fan of electric cars or Elon Musk. Just an old man that drives a lot of miles wanting to avoid accidents and had enough money to buy longest range.
After buying the car I was amazed at all the engineering involved.
The first trip I made that would involve recharging I got in the car and said navigate to home. Tesla plots course to Florence superchargers, told me how many were available and how long I would need to charge. This was on my way home.
Other times it says things like drive at 70 or below you will make it and shows you your options on superchargers. When it tells you the speed to drive at to get there you arrive at home with about 20 miles left.
I don't see this being as useful for farm and construction work.
Sure hope we can pump out enough coal and fossil fuels that will be needed to power these electric cars, and enough children in the Congo to mine that cobalt needed for the batteries.
I own 2 loud V8 mustangs. May be the last 2 around if tree huggers get their way. I will drive them until either I die or we stop producing gas.
It won't always be expensive either. It is much cheaper today than its ever been and will only get cheaper as R&D accelerates, especially now that auto companies are going all in.
Electric cars are just terrible for the environment though.
I’m pretty sure everyone in here saying they’ll never give up their gas automobiles are the same people who grew up wanting a briefcase car like George Jetson. At a certain point the technology will come along whether you like it or not. Sure there are people who still get along without electricity or even combustion automobiles but shaking a stick at change doesn’t stop it from happening.
Change and evolution of technology is wonderful but it can’t be forced. It must win out because it’s more efficient, more economical and most importantly desired by the consumer. It’s called capitalism. That’s what wins out every time. Not government forced change. The government needs to be cut back to the bare essentials and stay out of free enterprise forever.
Maybe the sedans were too fuel efficient for Americans' taste? Kind of ironic in the context of this discussion, right?
Anyway, it was 18 below zero at my house this morning and I drove snow-covered roads in 4×4 the 25 miles to work with the heat blasting in the cab of my truck. On this day, I really enjoyed a gas engine.
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The reason so many of those companies are taking about making changes and rolling out new products is because of the desires of the consumer. Tesla has been taking over more of the market despite costs and all of the other things mentioned about distances and charging. I don’t know that they will ever truly eliminate all of their combustion options but car manufacturers aren’t going to make the moves if the money isn’t there.
What you’re saying is correct to an extent - eventually capitalism will win out. But new things win out in spite of the government, not because the government is pushing it. Old technology/money pays the government to keep it in place as long as possible, until finally the wave of newer tech/money eventually wins out. Old money pays to keep their money, but eventually the old money falls short of the new because the new money inevitably becomes greater. Oil, gas, coal - they are dinosaurs (literally). As their profits slow because their product isn’t as good, they get overtaken.
The middle eastern countries are already bracing for this and pivoting - not because of American politics, but because they see the natural end of their current income stream.
That's curious wording. Why do you think people won't like new and better technology? Sure, there are the Amish and a few other "weirdos" who haven't embraced most of our society's technology, but there aren't large swaths of the public remaining who have to be convinced of the advantages of air conditioning, the internet, automobiles, etc. Why would you think Americans won't embrace a new consumer product that does everything their old product did, perhaps even better, while also saving them money? In the 1960s (and even as late as the 80s), there were plenty of people who said they would never buy a Japanese car, but you won't find too many of those folks today. Nobody told them they would own a Japanese car whether they "liked it or not." Turns out, just about everyone has come to the conclusion, entirely on their own, that Japanese cars are just fine, maybe even superior, to American ones. They liked them, period.
"The like it or not" angle that we seem to hear so often when it comes to electric vehicles does nothing but put people on the defensive against them. When people decide it's a better product for them, you won't have to force it on them.
I thought big oil/gas owned the government. Maybe it is the insurance companies and bankers after all.
It’s not about being forced. There are still people who have land lines, people who don’t own smart phones, people with cable TV. It’s not that there isn’t better and in many cases cheaper technology they just don’t want change. It’s likely at some point those things will go away for the most part and some people will just hold onto them forever. My dad held onto his Betamax until he just couldn’t get videos for it anymore and then complained about how much it was better than VHS. People have fought technology at almost every turn and this will be no different.
OK, but how do you determine who is "fighting" technology and just being obstinate vs those who have decided they just don't need a particular technology (yet). My parents have landlines and cable TV, but they aren't holding onto them for any sort of ideological reasons. Both of those old technologies work perfectly for them and are better suited to their lifestyle than the other options. Adopt a new technology whenever you want, but dont assume those who adopt it later than you do are holding out as part of some crusade or because of some hangup about change.
I know a few people that don’t have a smart phone and still has a flip phone.My brother is one and they still don’t have internet in their house.His wife and daughter do have smart phones and just use whatever signal they can get.I finally got him to get a flat tv this past year when his old tv finally went bad.
And don't forget, people's taxes (or "fees") will increase dramatically because there will be no gasoline tax being collected to build and maintain all of these roads and bridges. Hybrid owners are already paying a $60 higher "fee" when you pay your car taxes each year.
We have property near Red Lodge. Saw the wind chill was -50 today... it's 65 in Mt. Pleasant. The wife would be in Montana today if she could...
I hear you can get a hell of a deal on acreage in Antarctica......... just saying!
Would be a one of a kind surprise for Valentine’s Day!!
It gets cheaper because state and federal government increase their subsidies to make sure EVs don’t get expensive. A large part of Tesla’s revenue comes from selling their carbon credits to other companies that need them to stay within California Cap and Trade limits. It has always been a sham.
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